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Re:Apple Shipped Me a 79-Pound iPhone Repair Kit to Fix a 1.... by seanmcdirmid on Saturday May 21, 2022 @11:08AM (#31458547)
Screw choices are really important when it comes to reliability and production costs. Yes, they could make a couple of screws that the user could remove, but those screws also tend to come loose on their own…

I don’t really buy that apple’s engineers are incompetent, rather they are making a bunch of design decisions and trade offs that make their phones more appealing for consumers to want to buy. Yes, they could make other trade offs.

Re:Apple Shipped Me a 79-Pound iPhone Repair Kit to Fix a 1.... by turbinerneiter on Saturday May 21, 2022 @11:13AM (#31458589)
I never said they are incompetent.

These trade offs are far sampler than what they want people to believe. Apple has the budget and the talent to do it. They don't because they don't want to. //edit: also screws are not the only option, see Pixel 6 which doesn't have screws but still makes it easier to open up the phone.

That's fine and that's their right, but we should call it what it is, and not act like a screw is something impossible to design.

Re:Apple Shipped Me a 79-Pound iPhone Repair Kit to Fix a 1.... by seanmcdirmid on Saturday May 21, 2022 @11:17AM (#31458622)
I was referring to

> This is a made up target-conflict that is easily resolved by any trained industrial designer and engineer.

It seems like your first comment was claiming that Apple could easily solve these issues without trade off.

Re:Apple Shipped Me a 79-Pound iPhone Repair Kit to Fix a 1.... by turbinerneiter on Saturday May 21, 2022 @11:25AM (#31458709)
Yes, I think they could. They have the best engineers in the world and incredible amounts of money. The regularly invent new manufacturing techniques to enable their new designs. They often invest heavily in their suppliers to enable them to make the parts they need.

If Apple wanted to they could make an iPhone that people love and has all the features they want and be much easier to repair then the current version.

Re:Apple Shipped Me a 79-Pound iPhone Repair Kit to Fix a 1.... by NovemberWhiskey on Saturday May 21, 2022 @12:18PM (#31459191)
Apple tried to make the MacBook Pro just a few millimeters thinner and gave us the disastrous, almost-universally-loathed butterfly keyboard. I feel like your view that Apple engineers have massive design margins they are choosing not to exploit is just not real.
Re:Apple Shipped Me a 79-Pound iPhone Repair Kit to Fix a 1.... by turbinerneiter on Saturday May 21, 2022 @02:16PM (#31460374)
Maybe your view that a massive design margins are needed is not real.

Literally the choice of glue can make a huge difference for ease of repair with no impact on the design.