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Re:Is This the Future of Punctuation? by cpeterso on Saturday October 22, 2011 @10:56PM (#3145036)
I used to be a grammar nazi, but now I accept that we are witnessing hyper-evolution of written language. Before the internet, I didn't realize how pervasively people confused its/it's and lose/loose. (I knew there/their/they're was a common problem.)

I previously assumed languages typically evolved through "erosion" by dropping letters or spaces as a matter of saving time or space. But in today's computerized world, time and space are cheaper, so grammar exceptions seem to what is eroding: its/it's is an apparent punctuation exception and lose/loose is a pronunciation exception.

Re:Is This the Future of Punctuation? by obiterdictum on Saturday October 22, 2011 @11:08PM (#3145069)
I am not a native English speaker, but I'm constantly dumbfounded as to why anyone would even entertain the idea that "its/it's" are in any way similar. When you substitute one with another, the sentence just does not parse. It stops making sense.

By conflating "its" and "it's", you are overloading the meaning of "its", making the language more ambiguous.

Perhaps this also has to do with me being accustomed to more formal (programming) languages.

Re:Is This the Future of Punctuation? by radarsat1 on Saturday October 22, 2011 @11:58PM (#3145149)
The reason it's confusing is that 's after a personal pronoun usually indicates possession, whereas this is the opposite for it's/its, so in that sense it's an exception to a rule, which people have a hard time remembering.
Re:Is This the Future of Punctuation? by parbo on Sunday October 23, 2011 @12:23AM (#3145198)
What personal pronouns have 's for the possesive form? Mine's? Your's? Hi's? Her's? Their's?
Re:Is This the Future of Punctuation? by LukeShu on Sunday October 23, 2011 @12:50AM (#3145240)
Ah, you found the rule for when you don't use it. Contrary to many textbooks, teachers, and websites, the lack of an apostrophe in "its" is not an exception--you don't use the apostrophe for pronouns. "His". "Hers". "Yours". As apposed to "Jack's", "Julie's", "the user's".
Re:Is This the Future of Punctuation? by hbar on Sunday October 23, 2011 @01:19AM (#3145290)
"opposed".

Normally I wouldn't correct you, but this being the grammar nazi thread and all...

Re:Is This the Future of Punctuation? by SamReidHughes on Sunday October 23, 2011 @04:43AM (#3145626)
"Its" is only used in places where "his", "her", and "your", which don't have the s's, are used. People don't use "its" in places where they'd use "hers" or "yours". It's awkward.
Re:Is This the Future of Punctuation? by radarsat1 on Monday October 24, 2011 @12:56PM (#3150436)
That's a better example. My explanation was wrong, but it's still an exception in the context you provide.
Re:Is This the Future of Punctuation? by psadauskas on Sunday October 23, 2011 @12:54AM (#3145250)
Bob's house. The mayor's key. The people's choice.
Re:Is This the Future of Punctuation? by parbo on Sunday October 23, 2011 @02:40AM (#3145404)
Those are nouns, not pronouns.
Re:Is This the Future of Punctuation? by radarsat1 on Sunday October 23, 2011 @09:20AM (#3146049)
Sorry, I used the wrong terminology.
Re:Is This the Future of Punctuation? by sp332 on Saturday October 22, 2011 @11:00PM (#3145042)
its/it's, they're/their, and you're/your are easy to remember: Possessive pronouns never have apostrophes.
Re:Is This the Future of Punctuation? by brodie on Sunday October 23, 2011 @01:05AM (#3145268)
Except for one.
Re:Is This the Future of Punctuation? by sp332 on Sunday October 23, 2011 @08:13AM (#3145926)
Hm, well I guess there's always one exception :)