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Re:Happy Birthday, Libera Chat by GekkePrutser on Thursday May 19, 2022 @02:28AM (#31431377)
I wonder if they're afraid Lee might sue them if they did or something

Edit: Or maybe they don't want to drag the whole drama into this celebration again :) Libera moved on so quickly that even after 2 months it felt like everything was in the distant past and the community was just as it had always been.

But then it would have been better to not elaborate on the history. I agree it's a bit weird like this.

Re:Happy Birthday, Libera Chat by RL_Quine on Thursday May 19, 2022 @02:30AM (#31431386)
> This time, instead of this awful cycle of disempowerment of the people, it's time that the people of the world, together, plant the flag of the power of the people on the Internet. The internet changed everything and leveled the playing field. This cannot be taken away.

By his own manifesto he wouldn't do that, and he wouldn't want to be a hypocrite.

Re:Happy Birthday, Libera Chat by Doxin on Thursday May 19, 2022 @02:34AM (#31431407)
> he wouldn't want to be a hypocrite

I'm not sure that's actually true. Clearly he very much liked taking power away from a specific set of people. The guy really likes constructing this narrative where he's some sort of free speech savior, but when you look at his actions the opposite seems true. E.g. during the switch to libera if you had any mention of libera in the channel topic on freenode you'd end up with all the channel operators banned and replaced with friends of Lee. That's hardly a pro-free-speech thing to do.

Re:Happy Birthday, Libera Chat by RL_Quine on Thursday May 19, 2022 @02:50AM (#31431490)
We need to standardize sarcasm punctuation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irony_punctuation

Re:Happy Birthday, Libera Chat by phoe-krk on Thursday May 19, 2022 @04:00AM (#31431946)
Just realized taht "/s" is a de-facto standard recognized almost everywhere in the international tech world - perhaps it would be viable to submit a RFC for it that can be referenced? Plenty of time before next year's April.
Re:Happy Birthday, Libera Chat by Doxin on Thursday May 19, 2022 @03:03AM (#31431566)
Oh whoops. The sarcasm seems obvious in hindsight. Apologies :P
Re:Happy Birthday, Libera Chat by dane-pgp on Thursday May 19, 2022 @05:41AM (#31432512)
"Oh, a sarcasm detector. Oh, that's a real useful invention."
Re:Happy Birthday, Libera Chat by phoe-krk on Thursday May 19, 2022 @02:36AM (#31431416)
> By his own manifesto he wouldn't do that

Except, well, he did.

Re:Happy Birthday, Libera Chat by na85 on Thursday May 19, 2022 @02:36AM (#31431418)
He's a chump and only "believes" in that stuff insofar as it lets him perpetuate his savior complex.
Re:Happy Birthday, Libera Chat by doctor_eval on Thursday May 19, 2022 @02:40AM (#31431433)
"promises only bind those who believe them" - JL Gassee
Re:Happy Birthday, Libera Chat by glandium on Thursday May 19, 2022 @05:13AM (#31432368)
FWIW, it's a very common saying in French. I wouldn't attribute it to Gassée.

Edit: googling it in French attributes it to Henri Queuille.

Re:Happy Birthday, Libera Chat by doctor_eval on Thursday May 19, 2022 @06:06AM (#31432638)
Thanks. JLG attributed it to politicians, I think, but I was (a) too lazy to find the source, but also (b) don’t speak French. I just didn’t want to appear to be taking credit for such a sharp observation.
Re:Happy Birthday, Libera Chat by glandium on Thursday May 19, 2022 @06:19AM (#31432705)
Jacques Chirac famously used a variant of it.
Re:Happy Birthday, Libera Chat by grvgr on Thursday May 19, 2022 @04:12AM (#31432009)
Re:Happy Birthday, Libera Chat by tentacleuno on Thursday May 19, 2022 @04:19AM (#31432044)
> Hello (do not) @buyvpnservice from (dirty) @Kape_com

> I hope you’re enjoying the ride.

> You are now at KAPUT, you are booked until the final destination, FUBAR.

> Please fasten your seatbelts and return your tray table to its full upright and locked position.

I'll be honest: I have absolutely no idea what this means. It's obvious the @buyvpnservice is meant to be a play on "buy VPN service", but everything else looks like mindless mumbling to me. Could you explain it, please?

Re:Happy Birthday, Libera Chat by grvgr on Thursday May 19, 2022 @04:24AM (#31432068)
Hello, thank you for taking the time to read.

If you read my tweets since December 21, 2021 (<20 total) you will get some more context.

I worked for PIA VPN for 5 years before it was bought by Kape.

They're scammers.

Re:Happy Birthday, Libera Chat by dspillett on Thursday May 19, 2022 @05:04AM (#31432312)
>* They're scammers.*

Given all the not-false-but-absolutely-misleading advertising I see/hear for VPN providers¹, I suspect they are all scammers or as near to as makes no odds.

[1] including in sponsored segments in the output of technical influenzas who don't help their reputation in my view by parroting the words themselves instead of letting the sponsor do it, or by being more choosy about exactly what they are willing to parrot

Re:Happy Birthday, Libera Chat by grvgr on Thursday May 19, 2022 @07:01AM (#31432932)
You are correct, scammers is too mild a term to describe criminal racketeers like Lee.
Re:Happy Birthday, Libera Chat by blibble on Thursday May 19, 2022 @07:51AM (#31433303)
last time he even threatened them with legal action he managed to get them to transfer the domain name and everything else to him

(so I was told)

Re:Happy Birthday, Libera Chat by grvgr on Thursday May 19, 2022 @07:58AM (#31433355)
Yes, I understand. They prey on the weak, but we are not weak.

They have also threatened me several times over many years.

They will not last long now.

https://gauravgiri.com/for-the-record/an-abusive-relationshi...