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Re:Why Google is so unbearable, and how to fix it by Nextgrid on Wednesday May 18, 2022 @09:41AM (#31422638)
Just 1% of Google's market might be enough to sustain a non-bloated, VC-free company and make a good product.

The Bloomberg Terminal is extremely expensive and yet companies pay for it because it makes their traders' jobs so much more efficient. I don't see why companies wouldn't do the same for a search engine that filters out all the bullshit so their employees don't have to waste their time wading through it.

Re:Why Google is so unbearable, and how to fix it by freediver on Wednesday May 18, 2022 @10:07AM (#31422948)
You are right. And the actual number is lot smaller. We just need 0.001% of Google users to be sustainable with the current team size. (or about 50,000 users out of 4.3B Google users). And if you find 50k users, you will find 100k. First 5k is tricky!

(Kagi founder here)

Re:Why Google is so unbearable, and how to fix it by warent on Wednesday May 18, 2022 @10:55AM (#31423580)
I've been using Kagi for a month or two now. Love it and very excited about your work. Unlike alternatives such as DuckDuckGo, it has easily and painlessly replaced Google Search for me. Can't wait to see more from yall
Re:Why Google is so unbearable, and how to fix it by DocTomoe on Wednesday May 18, 2022 @10:42AM (#31423384)
Hi!

I'm a Kagi private beta tester and love it. Will become a paying customer.

One question: I do remember a page that told me how much I searched and what that would mean once Kagi becomes a paid service. I can't find that info anymore. In light of the mail us Kagi users got today, does that mean that it's going to be a flat rate for starters?

Re:Why Google is so unbearable, and how to fix it by freediver on Wednesday May 18, 2022 @10:54AM (#31423546)
Yes that is what we intend to try ($10/mo flat fee for unlimited). Most users told us they are more comfortable with this model vs pay-per-use which is why we removed the "Consumption" page as is not relevant in this model.

We do not yet know if the flat fee will be viable for the company and we hope to learn that very soon.

Re:Why Google is so unbearable, and how to fix it by djbusby on Wednesday May 18, 2022 @11:37AM (#31424087)
Can you make Consumption page into History page? I think it handy to see all my old searches.
Re:Why Google is so unbearable, and how to fix it by EricE on Wednesday May 18, 2022 @11:49AM (#31424223)
Another user here who see's huge value in just renaming the consumption page to a history page. Would be VERY handy! Especially if I could restrict a search to my own search history.
Re:Why Google is so unbearable, and how to fix it by freediver on Wednesday May 18, 2022 @12:44PM (#31424888)
Hmm, we never had the ability to search your search history as we do not keep track of searches. Consumption page merely showed search count per day.

If you want to save your search history perhaps you can open a suggestion on https://kagifeedback.org

Re:Why Google is so unbearable, and how to fix it by smt88 on Wednesday May 18, 2022 @10:01AM (#31422880)
> Just 1% of Google's market

Google has 4.3B users, so 1% of that is 43M. With a $5 subscription, Kagi would have $215M in monthly revenue, enough to pay for 14,000 developer salaries.

A more reasonable target might be 500k users at, let's say, $10/mo.

Re:Why Google is so unbearable, and how to fix it by deltree7 on Wednesday May 18, 2022 @02:25PM (#31426020)
If I had a nickel 1% of the time some naive dude said, "we only need to capture 1% of the market to become rich", I'd be very rich.
Re:Why Google is so unbearable, and how to fix it by FredPret on Wednesday May 18, 2022 @10:00AM (#31422868)
1% of people who use Google is a hell of a lot. Also, Bloomberg doesn’t just search, it also provides data
Re:Why Google is so unbearable, and how to fix it by Nextgrid on Wednesday May 18, 2022 @10:02AM (#31422887)
Categorized search results are also data. Bloomberg is no different to Google in this regard, it doesn't generate the data, it just fetches and aggregates market data from various sources which anyone could technically do with enough effort and yet people pay for it.
Re:Why Google is so unbearable, and how to fix it by FredPret on Wednesday May 18, 2022 @11:06AM (#31423715)
They add their own interpretations and calculations of footnotes to financial statements. It’s a step beyond categorizing and aggregating.