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Re:Tell HN: I probably spend more on piracy than if I just p... by paranoidrobot on Tuesday May 17, 2022 @09:13AM (#31410049)
When Netflix first launched, it was great - they had a massive catalogue of older/pre-existing content, and were making a bunch of their own new, original content that likely wouldn't have been made elsewhere. Their UX was also pretty great - and made finding interesting content easy.

They made it dead-easy to sign up, there was no pushy retention teams or hoops to jump through if you wanted to cancel. That's why I paid them.

Amazon Video launched here, and they had some content that I was interested in, but their UX from day one has been awful. They insist on adding pre-roll ads, despite that I'm paying them. The video quality was pretty awful and was quite regularly at something like 480p quality on my (4k) TV. Yes their X-Ray tech is neat, but the ads just drive me up the wall.

There was a time that I would've happily paid for HBO - they had/have some really great content (at least in the US), but they are or were not available in AU outside of a $120+/month PayTV device that I really didn't want.

Now there are dozens of streaming services, with their own $15-30/month fees, which will have (or not) selections of some of the content I want, each with their own uniquely awful and annoying interfaces or quirks of whether they will or won't play on my TV or device.

Re:Tell HN: I probably spend more on piracy than if I just p... by sshagent on Tuesday May 17, 2022 @09:29AM (#31410260)
I can't imagine anyone at 'Amazon Video' actually uses the service, else they'd realise that the UI is horrific...and whole service is terrible. I only have it as its "free" with my delivery options.
Re:Tell HN: I probably spend more on piracy than if I just p... by istjohn on Tuesday May 17, 2022 @09:44AM (#31410501)
IMO, Amazon is awful at UI design across the board--including the core shopping experience.
Re:Tell HN: I probably spend more on piracy than if I just p... by gonzo41 on Tuesday May 17, 2022 @09:54AM (#31410673)
It's a feature not a bug, familiarity is the feature. It never massively changes on purpose.
Re:Tell HN: I probably spend more on piracy than if I just p... by nicolas_t on Tuesday May 17, 2022 @10:45AM (#31411480)
I watch some shows on Amazon Prime Video despite the shitty UI because they are great but it does mean that I do no discovery through the app.
Re:Tell HN: I probably spend more on piracy than if I just p... by what-the-grump on Tuesday May 17, 2022 @12:04PM (#31412665)
I don't think its a revenue generator for them, I think its we have to have X. Music, video, etc. Look at Audiable, still exists kind of outside of Amazon.com

If they really want to make it into a thing, it cannot be within amazon.com. Call it something else, rip out and make it into a service not an addon to prime.

Re:Tell HN: I probably spend more on piracy than if I just p... by sshagent on Friday May 20, 2022 @09:44AM (#31447276)
I kinda get that. But why not just tidy that UI up, and make it a good viewing experience and who knows maybe more of us will watch the seasons they have available and rent/purchase the ones that aren't. Instead of the car wreck of a UI experience
Re:Tell HN: I probably spend more on piracy than if I just p... by bombcar on Tuesday May 17, 2022 @09:36AM (#31410362)
It works well enough if you’re just playing content you already have and not searching.
Re:Tell HN: I probably spend more on piracy than if I just p... by pmoriarty on Tuesday May 17, 2022 @11:48AM (#31412421)
"When Netflix first launched, it was great - they had a massive catalogue of older/pre-existing content, and were making a bunch of their own new, original content that likely wouldn't have been made elsewhere."

The movie selection on NetFlix's DVD service[1] is still fantastic.

The movie selection on their streaming service[2] is absolutely atrocious.

Not sure what accounts for the discrepancy.

[1] - https://dvd.netflix.com/

[2] - https://www.netflix.com/

Re:Tell HN: I probably spend more on piracy than if I just p... by paranoidrobot on Tuesday May 17, 2022 @07:12PM (#31417339)
The DVD service wasn't available outside the US, as far as I understand.

The reason they can rent-out DVD titles from anyone, is because of the First-Sale doctrine[1] in the US. Basically, once they buy the DVD, they can do with it what they want. It's the same law that lets libraries operate.

With streaming, they need permission of the copyright holders. Who, at first, were all "Who gives a shit about streaming, it doesn't make any money and the quality is shit". Once Netflix proved out how to do it right - then all the studios realised there was money to be made by doing their own platform (even if you do a shitty job of it)

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-sale_doctrine

Re:Tell HN: I probably spend more on piracy than if I just p... by sixstringtheory on Tuesday May 17, 2022 @12:49PM (#31413323)
You also get director commentary, more foreign language audio and DVD specials that you don’t get with streaming.
Re:Tell HN: I probably spend more on piracy than if I just p... by birdyrooster on Tuesday May 17, 2022 @12:07PM (#31412713)
They used to be the only bidder now they are bidding against dozens of streaming services competing in different niches. Their DVD business has no competition.
Re:Tell HN: I probably spend more on piracy than if I just p... by pmoriarty on Tuesday May 17, 2022 @12:52PM (#31413370)
You'd think that with all that competition, NetFlix's streaming service would be much better in order to compete with other companies (which have a far better selection). But somehow they get away with having a crappy selection, despite having lots of competitors.

Conversely, since NetFlix's DVD service doesn't have any competitors they could get away with having a crappy selection, but they have a great selection, and it's been great for at least a decade.

So it still doesn't make sense.

Re:Tell HN: I probably spend more on piracy than if I just p... by aidenn0 on Tuesday May 17, 2022 @01:03PM (#31413544)
Cost of adding a niche title to NF DVD service is probably less than $1000, since they won't need many copies. I doubt they can get streaming rights for any feature length film still in copyright for under $1000.
Re:Tell HN: I probably spend more on piracy than if I just p... by pmoriarty on Tuesday May 17, 2022 @05:44PM (#31416647)
Amazon Prime Video does it, as does Youtube.

Both of these have way, way, way better selections than NetFlix streaming.

Re:Tell HN: I probably spend more on piracy than if I just p... by iRomain on Wednesday May 18, 2022 @11:28AM (#31423996)
I have a subscription to Disney+ here in Thailand...

1. I could not download the right Disney+ app on my Android TV because my Google account is French

2. I could download the right app on my iPhone (after temporarily switching stores which is a PITA) so I bought a cable to stream from my iPhone to my TV but the app doesn’t allow me to

3. I bought a Raspberry Pi and installed Plex and al. I can now watch the Disney movies easily on my TV.

I have a subscription to Netflix…

1. I went off-internet for a week, so I synced a couple of movies to be available offline.

2. I started watching one on the first day and 48h hours later it expired…

3. Next time I will use my Plex setup!

I must be very dumb to keep paying for these two subscriptions!

Re:Tell HN: I probably spend more on piracy than if I just p... by sjostrom7 on Tuesday May 17, 2022 @10:44AM (#31411455)
And if they have the content you're looking for today, it'll be gone next week...
Re:Tell HN: I probably spend more on piracy than if I just p... by pirate-Loo6uoDu on Tuesday May 17, 2022 @10:46AM (#31411483)
I have a decent rip of The Expanse and an amazon prime account!
Re:Tell HN: I probably spend more on piracy than if I just p... by whoomp12342 on Tuesday May 17, 2022 @11:28AM (#31412144)
if they did it right, its a great reason to go legit. But I agree entirely with everything you just said