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Re:Shopify invests in research for Ruby at scale by pjmlp on Tuesday May 17, 2022 @03:16AM (#31407027)
Dynamic and somewhat loose language doesn't preclude not having at very least JIT support out of the box, even BASIC was better in that regard.

And if we take into account Ruby's predecessors, Smalltalk, SELF, Dylan.

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Re:Shopify invests in research for Ruby at scale by rileyphone on Tuesday May 17, 2022 @05:51PM (#31416709)
SELF was really fast, at least as claimed [0] - about half the speed of optimized C and quicker to compile. It was where the HotSpot tech for the JVM came from, and V8 uses a similar object model and thus techniques. Just wish they could have made it usable!

[0] https://bibliography.selflanguage.org/practical.html

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Re:Shopify invests in research for Ruby at scale by igouy on Wednesday May 18, 2022 @12:18PM (#31424587)
afaict Self and Dylan were research projects / product development projects.

Smalltalk had multiple commercial implementations and was used to build mission critical software in banks and utility companies and manufacturing companies and…

https://www.davethomas.net/papers/ubiquitous1995.pdf

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Re:Shopify invests in research for Ruby at scale by pjmlp on Thursday May 19, 2022 @03:16AM (#31431657)
Apple sold Dylan to Harlequin, which sold it as a DylanWorks for some time.

Smalltalk still has commercial implementations, like Cincom.

https://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/main/

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