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Re:BitTorrent Throttling Internet Providers Exposed by praptak on Friday October 21, 2011 @11:28AM (#3140169)
My pitchfork and torch is always ready but have they ruled out the possibility that the measurements are a result of something other than ISP targetting P2P? Something like ISPs just blocking bandwidth hogs? Have they tested various protocols with similar characteristics to see that only BT is throttled?
Re:BitTorrent Throttling Internet Providers Exposed by palish on Friday October 21, 2011 @09:28PM (#3142436)
So... This won't answer your question directly... Just as a datapoint: I use Charter, and rarely torrent. But when I do, my connection gets "throttled" in an interesting way. It happens like clockwork:

I reach maximum download speed (1.5MB/sec in my case), and after a few minutes of sustained speed, all internet traffic suddenly halts. It's as if the modem were unplugged. Between 1-5 min later, internet suddenly starts back up. Rinse and repeat.

As far as I can tell, this has never happened with any other program. Not once! Only uTorrent seems to trigger it. Sometimes I can torrent for about an hour before experiencing the throttling; but it always eventually happens.

I'm actually glad they throttle me, since I don't feel bad about hogging bandwidth anymore! But that's just a personal quirk... =)

There is one other interesting aspect to the throttling: during the download, my upload speed is capped to 0.5kb/sec. (that is not a typo.) And when the torrent finishes downloading, the upload speed immediately drops to zero.

In other words, Charter seems to be entirely blocking all Bittorrent seeding. My little conspiracy theory is that the 0.5kb/sec are "keepalive" packets, which trick the Bittorrent protocol into allowing me to download without seeding at all. If true, then that's very crafty of Charter... And no one complains, because no one tends to notice/care about upload speed. (and if they did notice, they probably say "yay, that's cool, torrenting without saturating my upload!". But I feel greedy.

There's probably a mundane explanation; maybe our Linksys router is misconfigured somehow? But then why does my download speed work correctly at 1.5MBs, with upload speed capped to 0.5kbs? And when a download completes, why does the 0.5kbs drop to zero?

To me, it seems like there's a mystery there. But I'm likely just stupid. =)

Re:BitTorrent Throttling Internet Providers Exposed by redthrowaway on Friday October 21, 2011 @11:23PM (#3142642)
Are you on wireless? Apparently bittorrent tends to kill a lot of wireless routers, as it opens too many simultaneous connections for them to handle. I will regularly see my download speeds shoot up, only to crash to 0. Resetting my router fixes it, but the modem itself is fine.
Re:BitTorrent Throttling Internet Providers Exposed by wtallis on Friday October 21, 2011 @11:48PM (#3142711)
Wireless has nothing to do with it. The problem is that most consumer routers don't have enough RAM to firewall more than a hundred connections. It only correlates with wireless usage because most consumer routers are bought and used specifically for wi-fi.
Re:BitTorrent Throttling Internet Providers Exposed by palish on Friday October 21, 2011 @11:31PM (#3142659)
Oh wow, thanks! I am on wireless.

I don't suppose your router happens to be a blue-and-gray El Cheapo Walmart Linksys, like mine...? Haha. It's so ghetto; I can only forward 10 port ranges total, for example.

Out of curiosity, does uploading/seeding work correctly when you torrent?

Re:BitTorrent Throttling Internet Providers Exposed by mgcross on Saturday October 22, 2011 @06:14PM (#3144452)
Check out Tomato firmware: http://www.polarcloud.com/tomato Much more control than stock firmware. It may be a matter of adjusting max connections and/or TCP timeout.
Re:BitTorrent Throttling Internet Providers Exposed by palish on Saturday October 22, 2011 @09:49PM (#3144881)
Thanks very much!