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Re:Not a single car was sold in Shanghai last month by ars on Monday May 16, 2022 @12:53PM (#31400170)
COVID is airborne, so lockdowns in a dense city do not work.

Cleaning surfaces doesn't do anything, those plastic dividers also don't do anything.

The regular masks barely do anything. The N95 masks only work until people take them off and they eventually have to.

Vaccines only work for a short time, but they do reduce deaths because the eventual infection is not as severe.

Basically not a single thing that we did actually helped. It just made people feel better by giving them a sense of control.

The only thing that worked, in a sense, is allowing COVID to infect people and giving them natural immunity.

I say in a sense because there were deaths by following that process.

Re:Not a single car was sold in Shanghai last month by somewhereoutth on Monday May 16, 2022 @06:22PM (#31403832)
Lockdowns have been very effective each time they have been enforced. Shanghai the latest example. Things go wrong when they are prematurely lifted.

People only have to take their masks off to eat/drink. Do that outside, or within your own home.

Vaccines have been extraordinarily successful in reducing sickness and death, and indeed transmission. However, alone they are not enough to quell Covid.

Disease acquired immunity has in fact not worked, even combined with vaccination, as Covid has evolved to evade immunity and reinfections are common.

Re:Not a single car was sold in Shanghai last month by nradov on Monday May 16, 2022 @11:26PM (#31405739)
Nonsense. The virus is here to stay. Regular people aren't going to spend the rest of their lives wearing masks. Disease acquired immunity works very well for most patients. You are spreading irresponsible misinformation.

https://peterattiamd.com/covid-part2/

Re:Not a single car was sold in Shanghai last month by somewhereoutth on Tuesday May 17, 2022 @08:19AM (#31409405)
"Regular People" might find they have to do things they previously wouldn't - like wearing seatbelts.

Reinfection is now understood to be common - after all, Omicron is spreading rapidly though a population that is not only vaccinated, but also largely already had Covid.

Be aware, almost nobody stands to gain from making Covid seem worse than it is, but many many powerful people stand to lose from public health interventions to prevent Covid, so gain from downplaying the problem. I wonder which Peter Attia is? "As his residency drew to a close, Attia joined the consulting firm McKinsey & Company in the Palo Alto office as a member of the Corporate Risk Practice and Healthcare Practice."

Re:Not a single car was sold in Shanghai last month by nradov on Tuesday May 17, 2022 @08:31AM (#31409544)
Reinfection is not a serious concern. While patients can get reinfected, symptoms are typically mild. Did you even listen to the podcast I linked? It contains a panel discussion with several noted experts that Dr. Attia brought in to explain the real situation.

Regular people aren't going to wear masks regardless of what the alarmists say.

Re:Not a single car was sold in Shanghai last month by somewhereoutth on Tuesday May 17, 2022 @01:26PM (#31413811)
> symptoms are typically mild

Has that been definitively shown? It was not so long ago that re-infection was thought to be very rare. I don't think our understanding of the effects of repeat infections is very good yet - not least because we are at the beginning of this (reinfection was much rarer before Omicron).

But Regular People ended up wearing seatbelts? If mask mandates come back, then yes they will wear them too.