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Re:Tech bubbles are bursting all over the place by worik on Saturday May 14, 2022 @06:58PM (#31383522)
> code, and all it’s material constructs that you pointed out (loops, allocation etc), do not exist apart from the business, because it’s the only reason those things exist in the first place. I

What else is that true for? All the way down. Biology, chemistry, physics, quantum physics.... All that we work on exists in those contexts too. Yet we just swim in the sea and ignore the water. The same is true of business matters. They are the ocean I swim in

> I’ve seen devs waste literal months on things that, had the primary stakeholders known about it, they’d never have agreed to.

That is poor communication. Communication is a necessary skill for all cooperative endeavours.

I am a cog in a machine. Unusually for some one in my position I actually have a good understanding of business (studied it for years) and I prefer computer programming. Having computer programmers stick their oar in over financial matters, unasked, is not good. So I do not do it. I know my place, I like my place.

Re:Tech bubbles are bursting all over the place by danielvaughn on Sunday May 15, 2022 @06:26AM (#31386620)
Do you honestly think I’m being so literal when I use the term “business” that I’m talking about devs getting involved in financial matters? I’m talking about developers approaching their job with the understanding that they work for a business, and that their output is intended to drive business results. If they don’t understand how their work affects the business, there is an issue.

> That is poor communication.

…yes…as I said, there needs to be a tight chain of command with clear directives at each layer, in other words, good communication. When there is a break in the communication chain, the only thing you can rely on is an individual developers judgement.