Re:Long-term benzodiazepine use causes synapse loss and cogn...
by SemanticStrengh on Saturday May 14, 2022 @06:04PM
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picamilon is banned? That's dumb, soon they will ban l-theanine and taurine?
I really don't think you can get addicted to picamillon like phen or benz
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Re:Long-term benzodiazepine use causes synapse loss and cogn...
by kayodelycaon on Saturday May 14, 2022 @06:32PM
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Some supplements are basically unregulated medications.
I found out the hard way that L-Theanine does not mix well with bipolar disorder. I suspect it inactivated the mood stabilizer I was on.
Re:Long-term benzodiazepine use causes synapse loss and cogn...
by rejectfinite on Tuesday May 17, 2022 @05:46PM
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Maybe dont mix shit if you already have fucking BIPOLAR!
Let us that are normal and know what we are doing keep our drugs.
Yes, caffeine and l-theamine are drugs.
Re:Long-term benzodiazepine use causes synapse loss and cogn...
by SemanticStrengh on Saturday May 14, 2022 @07:05PM
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that is surprising to hear. ltheanine action of GABA should calm/stabilize you. it's action of dopamine might trigger anxiety/anger/mania but the effect is so mild vs caffeine/nicotine/amphetamine that I find it surprising/weird.
To be clear we are talking about theanine and not theine.
Re:Long-term benzodiazepine use causes synapse loss and cogn...
by kayodelycaon on Saturday May 14, 2022 @07:48PM
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Both Lamotrigine (anticonvulsant) and L-Theanine act on glutamate.
Mixing them was a bad, bad idea. I don’t think I slept more than 2 hours a day most of March. (My psychiatrist was not happy.)
Re:Long-term benzodiazepine use causes synapse loss and cogn...
by heavyset_go on Saturday May 14, 2022 @06:19PM
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The FDA's argument is that it isn't a naturally occurring substance like an amino acid: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Picamilon#Regulation
Re:Long-term benzodiazepine use causes synapse loss and cogn...
by SemanticStrengh on Saturday May 14, 2022 @06:54PM
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insane hypocrisy from the Federal Death Agency, a prodrug is functionally the exact same thing as the endogenously occuring substance
Re:Long-term benzodiazepine use causes synapse loss and cogn...
by heavyset_go on Saturday May 14, 2022 @07:40PM
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I agree. I tried picamilon in the past, it's a very benign substance. Never experienced withdrawals or dependence. It's not like it's an exogenous GABA ligand or modulator, either. I'd venture to say that if any GABA actually makes it to the brain, it's just recycled via reuptake into pre/post-synaptic clefts, whereas phenibut and benzodiazepines cause increased binding of existing GABA, and in their absence, can cause dependence when GABA receptors return to their natural binding states.
edit: apparently phenibut directly binds to GABA receptors, which is different than how benzodiazepines work. It also acts like gabapentin.