IQ scores are falling and have been for decades (2018)

Re:IQ scores are falling and have been for decades (2018) by jvanderbot on Saturday May 14, 2022 @10:26AM (#31378223)

I agree, but stated another way, college is also a test of 'can this person adapt and meet demands to excel in a new system', a skill which I believe is underrated, under measured, and hugely valuable.

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Re:IQ scores are falling and have been for decades (2018) by brnaftr361 on Saturday May 14, 2022 @01:25PM (#31380229)

Nah, so far as I can tell: it's compliance. It asks the question "Will you do what it takes, even when it's irrational, to pattern yourself after our model?"

Moreover it's painfully easy to exploit your way through especially if you're already rich. Just go doctor shopping with Mommy so you can get a 504 and accomodations and stimulant medications.

If it selected for adaptation the curriculum would be different, things like figuring out the area of a circle using given materials, not abstract shit. If it selected for intelligence there would br a huge battery of exceptions, handicaps for the working class kids, because they have to put in way more effort than the kids living with their parents who are unemployed, likewise with non-traditionals.

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Re:IQ scores are falling and have been for decades (2018) by _vdpp on Saturday May 14, 2022 @03:35PM (#31381535)

The term “504” was new to me - doctor-prescribed academic assistance, apparently.

https://www2.ed.gov/about/offices/list/ocr/504faq.html

Is this being abused?

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Re:IQ scores are falling and have been for decades (2018) by jvanderbot on Saturday May 14, 2022 @02:30PM (#31380865)

You're repeating what I said: adapting to an existing process and finding success within a system is exactly what college teaches and filters on. That's usually a good thing for most job seekers.

I cannot fathom a successful professional that does not balance 'I must innovate the sysyem even if it hurts me' against 'I will work within this system for my own personal benefit by providing exactly what is requested of me'

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Re:IQ scores are falling and have been for decades (2018) by jvanderbot on Saturday May 14, 2022 @04:23PM (#31381961)

Both these can be true:

- Rich people can painfully easily exploit something to make their ROI much higher

- That something can be an immensely valuable investment for the non-rich

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