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Re:Tech bubbles are bursting all over the place by pclmulqdq on Friday May 13, 2022 @03:34PM (#31371707)
IIRC, the energy use for crypto as a whole is on par with the energy use of the fiat currency system, if not higher. I don't know how gold mining ranks, but it may be well below crypto mining in energy use or well above. Mining energy use depends a lot on asset price, and gold prices are comparatively low (compared to other asset classes).

Silicon and other electronic parts also get dumped into this market, when the capacity used to build those devices could be used for other things.

Re:Tech bubbles are bursting all over the place by worik on Friday May 13, 2022 @05:39PM (#31372794)
> the energy use for crypto as a whole is on par with the energy use of the fiat currency system

That is an unbelievable statement just on the face of it.

But if we say: "What is the energy use per transaction?" what then?

The inefficiency of crypto currency is legendary.

Re:Tech bubbles are bursting all over the place by pclmulqdq on Friday May 13, 2022 @08:05PM (#31373820)
I meant total energy spend for both systems. Despite the transaction volume being minuscule, crypto likely burns a similar amount of energy to the energy consumption of the global finance industry today.
Re:Tech bubbles are bursting all over the place by worik on Saturday May 14, 2022 @07:01PM (#31383542)
> crypto likely burns a similar amount of energy to the energy consumption of the global finance industry today.

"likely"? What do you mean?

And that illustrates how incredibly inefficient crypto is

Re:Tech bubbles are bursting all over the place by r3trohack3r on Friday May 13, 2022 @04:04PM (#31371990)
A good reference to compare bitcoin to gold mining (and other human endeavors like brewing tea): https://ccaf.io/cbeci/index

Gold mining and bitcoin are currently roughly on-par. But gold's energy usage isn't just mining. It's the entire supply chain from Cash 4 Gold stores, long term storage, smelting/recycling, etc. I don't have a good reference for the total cost of gold.

Re:Tech bubbles are bursting all over the place by pclmulqdq on Friday May 13, 2022 @04:40PM (#31372315)
Oh, that is only for bitcoin mining. Is there a source for the entire crypto ecosystem since you want to compare bitcoin mining to the entire gold supply chain? I would suspect that if you include shipment and storage, you are still under bitcoin mining for the entire gold supply chain.

However, the point still stands. Datacenters in the US use total energy less than 2 bitcoins. How many of those datacenters are moving fiat around? Way less than half?

Things like brewing tea and heating houses take a ton of energy. Moving money around doesn't!

Crypto is a huge waste, and that site does not suggest otherwise.