Rich Hickey: "Simple Made Easy" from Strange Loop 2011 [video]

Re:Rich Hickey: "Simple Made Easy" from Strange Loop 2011 [v... by jcromartie on Thursday October 20, 2011 @05:16PM (#3137057)

To me, Clojure is about as productive as banging out a script in Ruby. It's way more productive than writing the same thing in any language where I can't (easily, or at all) just fire up a REPL and start hacking.

I can actually just crank out code that I use. It can be quick and messy. Clojure is not concerned with type theory and provable correctness.

But the end result of a quick hack, in Clojure, is often something (or is made of of parts) that can be applied to other problems by pulling it out into a library, or by abstracting one more argument to a function, etc..

I think someone like Gabriel Weinberg could get along just fine in Clojure, with much the same spirit as hacking Perl, but maybe with better results.

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Re:Rich Hickey: "Simple Made Easy" from Strange Loop 2011 [v... by swah on Thursday October 20, 2011 @08:15PM (#3137735)

I kinda regret having chosen Clojure for my project. Its not that I can't express ideas in very little code, its just that my workflow is different from languages like Python.

In Clojure, it seems that I can't apply the method of spike solution (http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?SpikeSolution) and then refactor it into working code like I do with languages like Python or C.

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Re:Rich Hickey: "Simple Made Easy" from Strange Loop 2011 [v... by jcromartie on Thursday October 20, 2011 @10:36PM (#3138104)

I'm wondering what about spikes doesn't work in Clojure? I usually understand a spike as a "proof of concept" that doesn't handle all of the edge cases.

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Re:Rich Hickey: "Simple Made Easy" from Strange Loop 2011 [v... by seancorfield on Thursday October 20, 2011 @10:59PM (#3138162)

I'm curious why you feel you can't create spike solutions in Clojure?

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Re:Rich Hickey: "Simple Made Easy" from Strange Loop 2011 [v... by swah on Friday October 21, 2011 @08:53AM (#3139485)

Probably because pseudocode in my head is imperative.

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Re:Rich Hickey: "Simple Made Easy" from Strange Loop 2011 [v... by mnemonicsloth on Saturday October 22, 2011 @01:36PM (#3143905)

I think that's normal. Part of learning Clojure is learning to think in another kind of pseudocode.

What does this imply about the languages you already know?

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