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Re:Chainless electric drive system “Free Drive” for bicycles... by a4isms on Friday May 13, 2022 @12:15PM (#31369449)
Have you seen a high-end bike? The gears have batteries, electric motors, microcontrollers, and sensors. You'll also find wireless power meters, GPS, and even radar sensors for traffic on a contemporary bike.

You get the idea. At the leading edge, bicycles are already extremely complicated. If we're comparing this idea to a bicycle from 2002, it's complicated. But I'm not sure that it's that complicated compared to the kind of bike you'd find in the roof rack of an Audi S4 Wagon :-)

Re:Chainless electric drive system “Free Drive” for bicycles... by Johnny555 on Friday May 13, 2022 @01:02PM (#31370074)
I've seen them, even rode some bikes with electric shifters, but still don't want the complexity. One of my bikes is over 20 years old with the same Ultegra shifters, I haven't done any maintenance other than lubing once a season and they still work fine. I'd be surprised if the battery on electric shifters lasts that long.
Re:Chainless electric drive system “Free Drive” for bicycles... by Steltek on Friday May 13, 2022 @12:56PM (#31369994)
You're describing a high-end e-bike, which is basically an e-motorcycle with less regulation.

A high-end regular-bike has electronic shifting and a power meter and that's about it. And you're talking many thousands of dollars worth of road bike. It's like seeing a Ferrari or a Lambo rolling down city streets. They exist but they're rare.

Re:Chainless electric drive system “Free Drive” for bicycles... by a4isms on Friday May 13, 2022 @01:09PM (#31370166)
Yes, but we're discussing technology that will also be rare. It's not like these chainless electric drive systems will appear on big-box sporting goods store bicycles, so why compare it to a mass-market affordable bike's technology?

I think it's reasonable to compare a leading edge technology to a leading-edge existing product. Otherwise, it's like it's 2007 and we're complaining that this newfangled iPhone thngie can run out of battery in a day, while my POTS telephone works even in a blackout.

Yes, true, but apples, oranges.

Re:Chainless electric drive system “Free Drive” for bicycles... by Arainach on Friday May 13, 2022 @01:54PM (#31370597)
Not necessarily. Shimano Di2 electronic shifting was introduced all the way back in 2001 and has been among the standards for high-end road bikes for many years now. It has all of those components. The electric motor doesn't have to drive the wheel.