Re:Germany: Crypto held for more than a year will not get taxed
by lxgr on Friday May 13, 2022 @08:42AM
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It does not apply to stocks, bonds, mutual funds, and most other securities, which I would consider somewhat relevant asset classes.
Re:Germany: Crypto held for more than a year will not get taxed
by Mo3 on Friday May 13, 2022 @08:49AM
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I stand corrected, that is the way it has been before 2009 when I lived in Germany. I've edited the original comment.
It has, however, always been the case for cryptocurrency. This is not a new tax law or anything of significance.
Re:Germany: Crypto held for more than a year will not get taxed
by fock on Friday May 13, 2022 @09:14AM
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maybe because crypto is supposed to be currency ;)
Re:Germany: Crypto held for more than a year will not get taxed
by arcticbull on Friday May 13, 2022 @10:05AM
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I mean its dreadful at that so.
Re:Germany: Crypto held for more than a year will not get taxed
by Mo3 on Friday May 13, 2022 @10:08AM
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I highly recommend this research article - "The Philosophy of Bitcoin and the Question of Money"
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/02632764211049...
Re:Germany: Crypto held for more than a year will not get taxed
by ManuelKiessling on Friday May 13, 2022 @08:44AM
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This is nonsense. E.g. you can sell a house tax-free no earlier than two years after you’ve bought it, and only if you oived in it — if not, you need to wait 10 years for a tax-free sale.
Re:Germany: Crypto held for more than a year will not get taxed
by Mo3 on Friday May 13, 2022 @08:59AM
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Real estate is not a traditional asset class.
Re:Germany: Crypto held for more than a year will not get taxed
by trashtester on Friday May 13, 2022 @09:06AM
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I always used to think that real estate / claim to territory was the most traditional asset of all, dating back way farther than our species.
Re:Germany: Crypto held for more than a year will not get taxed
by randbox on Friday May 13, 2022 @10:44AM
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No other species has the recorder of deeds \ title registrar \ court system to enforce claims over territory in absentia without the continual presence of the beneficiary. Even among humans most of Earth's territory is considered common property and not excludable or conveyable personal property when considering the ocean. Practically speaking something is only an asset in a financial context when ownership can be conveyed on paper and pledged as collateral for a loan.
Re:Germany: Crypto held for more than a year will not get taxed
by trashtester on Friday May 13, 2022 @12:05PM
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Many animals use urine to "write" their claim to ownership. Trespassers get punished severely, and they know it. The message implies a high willingnes to enforce their claim, even at significant risk. Rivals usually stay away unless they are either desperate or confident that they are superior.
I would argue that these are the instincts that form the basis for our concept of ownership of assets, and predate our modern justice systems by tens of millions of years.
Re:Germany: Crypto held for more than a year will not get taxed
by PinguTS on Friday May 13, 2022 @08:57AM
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Funfact, if you move in directly after buying, you can sell it even in the very same year tax-free in the gains.
The two years plus 1 day rule applies only of the curse of 10 years, if you haven't moved in directly.
Re:Germany: Crypto held for more than a year will not get taxed
by TacticalCoder on Friday May 13, 2022 @09:17AM
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Two years if you live in it is not very different from one year. The 10 years for secondary houses is about preventing house shortages I guess. People need to be able to buy or rent a place to live: nobody needs to own cryptos.
Re:Germany: Crypto held for more than a year will not get taxed
by informalo on Friday May 13, 2022 @09:02AM
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That's not true. Before, crypto currencies used for staking and lending were only exempt after at least 10 years of holding. This has changed now.
Re:Germany: Crypto held for more than a year will not get taxed
by Mo3 on Friday May 13, 2022 @09:12AM
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The title literally says "HELD".
Re:Germany: Crypto held for more than a year will not get taxed
by informalo on Friday May 13, 2022 @09:14AM
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I realize that. I was replying to the parent comment that claims that it has always been like this which is not true.
Re:Germany: Crypto held for more than a year will not get taxed
by Mo3 on Friday May 13, 2022 @09:20AM
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Yeah, you were replying to me. It's still not true. Holding cryptocurrency has always had a speculative period of 1 year.
Re:Germany: Crypto held for more than a year will not get taxed
by informalo on Friday May 13, 2022 @09:24AM
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Ok, fair enough, it's a misunderstanding based on terminology
Re:Germany: Crypto held for more than a year will not get taxed
by qwertox on Friday May 13, 2022 @09:29AM
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> This has changed now.
Where does it say that?
Re:Germany: Crypto held for more than a year will not get taxed
by throwaway4good on Friday May 13, 2022 @09:06AM
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Your boss sends you a gif of a puppeteer?
Re:Germany: Crypto held for more than a year will not get taxed
by Mo3 on Friday May 13, 2022 @09:12AM
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Of course. Yours doesn't?
We’re both executives. Besides, I have to admit that it’s always super funny realizing that we have flatter hierarchies and better work climate at a damn hedge fund than most places.
And we’re not even crooks! Would you believe that. Crazy.
Re:Germany: Crypto held for more than a year will not get taxed
by karkisuni on Friday May 13, 2022 @09:45AM
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maybe they have a good relationship with their boss and communicate in ways that work for them and match the world we live in? does your boss still communicate with you in formal memos?
I've been seeing this spammed all around the internet today. I wonder if there may be some... motivation behind it.
// Edit, for whatever it's worth, I'm CTO at a major hedge fund at NYSE and the CEO literally just sent me the same damn article hosted on a different URL. I pointed out that it has always been the case and he replied with a GIF of a puppeteer.