Re:Twitter CEO fires two top executives, freezes hiring
by SemanticStrengh on Thursday May 12, 2022 @03:36PM
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I am not an expert in cars and yet I know the Renault Zoe was commercialized in 2012, the year of the model S, for a reasonable autonomy and a much, much cheaper price. I believe tesla were the first to sell low volume, pricey EV cars.
Their range and timing advance is only because of choosing the rich over the middle class, aka a lesser impact. Although it's true EV were and remain not cheap but it's getting quickly much better and it's definitely not tesla that will lead the dance of democratisation
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Re:Twitter CEO fires two top executives, freezes hiring
by r00fus on Thursday May 12, 2022 @06:43PM
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I'm no Musk fan, but let's be honest, Tesla released the Roadster in 2008. An expensive luxury product, no doubt, but years ahead of the Leaf or Zoe.
Re:Twitter CEO fires two top executives, freezes hiring
by throwawayboise on Thursday May 12, 2022 @07:27PM
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And the Leaf looks like the typical electric cross between a clown car and a golf cart. The Roadster was based on a Lotus Elise. It looked great.
Re:Twitter CEO fires two top executives, freezes hiring
by sokoloff on Thursday May 12, 2022 @09:33PM
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If you took the badges off, I think most people would have a hard time telling the LEAF (EV) and a Versa (ICE) apart. The LEAF is no 911 or Jaguar E-type, but it's not a "hey, look at me; I'm electric!" clown car either.
Re:Twitter CEO fires two top executives, freezes hiring
by throwawayboise on Thursday May 12, 2022 @11:39PM
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Maybe the current generation. I recall the original Leaf looking very clown-car-ish but I guess that's subjective.
Re:Twitter CEO fires two top executives, freezes hiring
by jsight on Friday May 13, 2022 @01:01AM
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Didn't the Zoe have a 22kwh battery? I don't doubt that it was practical for some things, but that was exactly the kind of car that many (especially in the US) used as an example of the "impracticality" of electric back then.
Re:Twitter CEO fires two top executives, freezes hiring
by SemanticStrengh on Friday May 13, 2022 @08:28PM
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it had a 210km range for the first iteration and 1/3 of the model s
https://www.renaultgroup.com/en/news-on-air/news/renault-zoe...