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Re:Twitter CEO fires two top executives, freezes hiring by dotnet00 on Thursday May 12, 2022 @02:58PM (#31358649)
I assume revolutionary in that other companies have only really started taking EVs seriously due to the success of Tesla.
Re:Twitter CEO fires two top executives, freezes hiring by adventured on Thursday May 12, 2022 @03:04PM (#31358757)
People constantly attempt to pretend Tesla didn't spark the EV revolution, because they can't stand to give Musk and or a US company credit.

It's the same reason they aggressively pretend Apple didn't spark the smartphone revolution (when it all very obviously derived from the iPhone and its dramatic impact, right down to the design of the phone and interface being copied by everyone else).

It's the same reason if you say the US invented the Internet here on HN, you'll get confused replies by people from outside of the US that are entirely ignorant of that fact, because of foreign revisionist history and the desperate desire to deny the US credit for its vast accomplishments (the America bad brigade). The same goes for eg the transistor, microprocessor and countless other prominent technologies that revolutionized the world.

Re:Twitter CEO fires two top executives, freezes hiring by MisterBastahrd on Thursday May 12, 2022 @06:21PM (#31360814)
So what?

It's still a business and it is tiny compared to the big players. Tesla is only a slightly better value than crypto given how insanely overvalued the stock is. If the company had an $80B market cap, it would still be vastly overvalued.

Re:Twitter CEO fires two top executives, freezes hiring by ckw on Thursday May 12, 2022 @08:05PM (#31361598)
If Tesla had a market cap of $80B it would be trading at 6.06 times Q1 earnings annualized. Having grown revenue 81% and gross profit 147% in the prior year…

It’s currently undervalued at 10x that price.

Re being small: its operating income was greater than Toyota in Q1, and it has two new factories that are yet to ramp production.

Re:Twitter CEO fires two top executives, freezes hiring by mensetmanusman on Thursday May 12, 2022 @08:02PM (#31361568)
Tiny compared to ICE sales which will soon be regulated out of existence in many countries in the coming decades.
Re:Twitter CEO fires two top executives, freezes hiring by sudosysgen on Thursday May 12, 2022 @07:41PM (#31361424)
Nissan and Renault took EVs seriously before Tesla came out with the Model S - Renault was working on the Zoe since before 2008.
Re:Twitter CEO fires two top executives, freezes hiring by dotnet00 on Thursday May 12, 2022 @08:48PM (#31361904)
Renault were working on the since before 2008 (2005 apparently), yet they only brought a product to market in 2012.

The Tesla Roadster was developed around the same time, yet deliveries started in 2008. By the time Renault got around to actually making the Zoe available to customers, Tesla had been selling the Model S for 6 months. I don't think they were taking EVs particularly seriously if they took that much longer to put out a less sophisticated product despite having vastly more resources at their disposal.

Re:Twitter CEO fires two top executives, freezes hiring by sudosysgen on Thursday May 12, 2022 @09:18PM (#31362134)
Sure, because the Tesla Roadster is half a car, and cost is no object. They literally took an existing car, and built an EV conversion kit, money be damned.

Making the first mass-market EV was going to take multiple years, no matter what. You need to engineer the entire car, at scale, and you need to hit a price-point. Tesla didn't have such an issue. I can't stress enough how much more difficult it is to make an affordable product than one where price is no object.