Re:Finland will seek NATO membership immediately
by fallingknife on Thursday May 12, 2022 @10:08AM
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What I don't understand is what Hungary gains from splitting with the rest of the EU and NATO to help Russia. Doesn't seem beneficial to them.
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Re:Finland will seek NATO membership immediately
by Veen on Thursday May 12, 2022 @12:41PM
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Hungary gets 60% of its oil and 85% of its gas from Russia.
Re:Finland will seek NATO membership immediately
by nathanm412 on Thursday May 12, 2022 @10:19AM
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It's not how it benefits Hungary, but what benefits Orban. He's playing the playbook we're all to familiar with lately of antagonizing allies while warming up with Putin. It allows him to solidify his base while attacking the principles of democracy that might threaten his position.
Re:Finland will seek NATO membership immediately
by JumpCrisscross on Thursday May 12, 2022 @11:17AM
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> what benefits Orban
Orban’s party won reëlection. Orban is popular [1]. We can crib about disinformation and this or that, but holding Hungary accountable for his decisions is perfectly acceptable.
[1] https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-viktor-orban-europ...
Re:Finland will seek NATO membership immediately
by ebruchez on Thursday May 12, 2022 @11:47AM
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> reëlection
I love the use of the diaeresis.
Re:Finland will seek NATO membership immediately
by sangnoir on Thursday May 12, 2022 @12:45PM
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They are snooty as hell, and I'll forever associate them with The New Yorker[1]. That said, I love them too! Now, if only we could do the same for awry and other words that trip up voracious readers.
1. https://www.newyorker.com/culture/culture-desk/the-curse-of-...
Re:Finland will seek NATO membership immediately
by gsinclair on Thursday May 12, 2022 @05:39PM
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They were once coming in English-language publications but now are seen in only The New Yorker, The Economist, and one other. Can anyone recall which?
Interestingly, they seem to survive most in naïve than in words like coöperate.
Co-operate is much more common than na-ive (which I've never seen). But both cooperate and naive seem reasonably well accepted.
Re:Finland will seek NATO membership immediately
by nradov on Thursday May 12, 2022 @10:21AM
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It's more about Hungarian domestic politics. The Orban administration has alienated much of the EU leadership, and is (arguably) in violation of the EU treaties. So they're looking to Russia as a backup option, and as an implicit threat to the EU over having their funding cut off.
Re:Finland will seek NATO membership immediately
by bonzini on Thursday May 12, 2022 @02:52PM
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Hungary is by far a net receiver in the EU budget.
Re:Finland will seek NATO membership immediately
by nradov on Thursday May 12, 2022 @05:39PM
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Right, and as I stated above, Hungary can threaten to establish closer ties with Russia if the EU cuts off their funding. This is a way to resist EU demands for internal political reforms and play towards the Fidesz party base.
Re:Finland will seek NATO membership immediately
by rich_sasha on Thursday May 12, 2022 @10:18AM
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The very short answer is that Hungary benefits both from membership in the Western block and from being Putin's friend inside it. So they presumably don't want to go as far as leave, but rather use that as a credible threat for leverage.
Re:Finland will seek NATO membership immediately
by teknopaul on Thursday May 12, 2022 @11:54AM
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If hungry tried to veto, Nato could evict them, then they would be facing Putin on their own.
Nobody is Putin's friend. When you join his club he send the military in to make sure it goes his way.
While I appreciate the sentiment, as long as Russia doesn't have a common border with Hungary, he won't be able to send the military. Who's gonna let him through?
Re:Finland will seek NATO membership immediately
by guildan on Friday May 13, 2022 @06:05PM
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La