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Re:Coinbase's 10-Q update: users' crypto asset could be subj... by klyrs on Tuesday May 10, 2022 @10:27PM (#31335183)
I truly don't understand why people are so upset about this. If you're claiming bankruptcy but sitting on a fat crypto wallet, why should it not be subject? Your bank isn't going to hide assets for you, why would any other legitimate business?
Re:Coinbase's 10-Q update: users' crypto asset could be subj... by daenz on Tuesday May 10, 2022 @10:31PM (#31335204)
This isn't about an individual declaring bankruptcy. It's about Coinbase declaring bankruptcy, and users' wallets being used to pay Coinbase's debts. That's why people are upset.
Re:Coinbase's 10-Q update: users' crypto asset could be subj... by cowvin on Tuesday May 10, 2022 @11:00PM (#31335388)
Yes, but it's not as weird as it sounds. It says the users are creditors as well so using the users' accounts to pay the users is not particularly strange.
Re:Coinbase's 10-Q update: users' crypto asset could be subj... by daenz on Tuesday May 10, 2022 @11:06PM (#31335421)
Specifically, it says "unsecured creditors" who get paid after debts to secured creditors. The "credit" is the contents of their wallets.
Re:Coinbase's 10-Q update: users' crypto asset could be subj... by UncleEntity on Tuesday May 10, 2022 @11:16PM (#31335471)
Sure, why would anyone invest in them if they weren’t sure they’d get paid out first when things go bad?

Kind of like the banks back in ‘09 making their depositors take a haircut to ensure the bank didn’t go under. Nobody really complained because it was the offshore banks where oligarchs and such hide their money and they received ‘ownership’ in return for them stealing their deposits.

Re:Coinbase's 10-Q update: users' crypto asset could be subj... by jrumbut on Wednesday May 11, 2022 @01:13AM (#31336053)
But the average American, or even pretty financially sophisticated ones, don't have experience with an institution like that.

I think it's fair to expect users to know the coins they buy might lose value, but this is a bizarre and unexpected risk. It's clear from this thread that hardly anyone thought to consider this risk because they are trading off the expectations created by other, better regulated institutions (namely domestic banks).

Edit: I may have misread your intentions, when I wrote this I thought you were saying this arrangement was OK because it has happened elsewhere.

Re:Coinbase's 10-Q update: users' crypto asset could be subj... by cko on Wednesday May 11, 2022 @12:23AM (#31335827)
If Charles Schwab goes under I'm pretty sure I still own the shares I bought through them though.
Re:Coinbase's 10-Q update: users' crypto asset could be subj... by omegalulw on Wednesday May 11, 2022 @02:16AM (#31336404)
It's weird because this is violating a fundamental principle that people generally associate with crypto: if you know the keys, you own the crypto. At least this is the case for Bitcoin.
Re:Coinbase's 10-Q update: users' crypto asset could be subj... by xiphias2 on Wednesday May 11, 2022 @02:33AM (#31336495)
It doesn't: coinbase owns the keys, so they own your crypto.
Re:Coinbase's 10-Q update: users' crypto asset could be subj... by thawaya3113 on Wednesday May 11, 2022 @04:45AM (#31337382)
Now let’s put that in the Coinbase marketing and see what happens…

“Invest in Crypto, by giving us $100 with which we will buy $100 worth of BTC that we own.”

How is that not weird and who would follow a QR code on their TV ago “Invest in crypto” if this was at the top of the page they opened?

Re:Coinbase's 10-Q update: users' crypto asset could be subj... by klyrs on Wednesday May 11, 2022 @12:29AM (#31335866)
Oh, that makes a lot more sense, thanks. Yeah, that's rather terrifying.
Re:Coinbase's 10-Q update: users' crypto asset could be subj... by xiphias2 on Wednesday May 11, 2022 @02:39AM (#31336528)
The difference is like storing money in a physical safe where you still own the values, vs on a bank account where you are a creditor.

People would prefer to store crypto in the first type of institution.