Chat control: EU Commission presents mass surveillance plan on May 11

Re:Chat control: EU Commission presents mass surveillance pl... by pyinstallwoes on Tuesday May 10, 2022 @02:18PM (#31330494)

The stipulation comes at the definition of what life is and what taking life away is. It’s a very difficult thing to define what life is, thus legally it is for lack of a better phrasing “a can of worms.” If you’re programming minded, you may see how such a definition is ambiguous and opens many attack vectors for interpretation. After seeing it this way, I began to understand why it’s so hotly contested.

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Re:Chat control: EU Commission presents mass surveillance pl... by narag on Tuesday May 10, 2022 @02:35PM (#31330776)

Best legal definition I've heard involves death. When is a person considered dead? Brain activity ceased irreversibly. In the opposite end you have first brain activity (around three months since fecundation) as the best milestone.

Of course there is philosophical discussion that goes beyond that, but since making it a crime is a legal matter, it's probably within reason.

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Re:Chat control: EU Commission presents mass surveillance pl... by robonerd on Tuesday May 10, 2022 @03:13PM (#31331309)

> Best legal definition I've heard involves death. When is a person considered dead?

Even that can become fiercely political.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_opinion_and_activism_in...

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Re:Chat control: EU Commission presents mass surveillance pl... by dane-pgp on Wednesday May 11, 2022 @12:05AM (#31335723)

> In the opposite end

Although it might be convenient to treat life as being somehow legally symmetrical, I think that is still a position that needs to be justified.

To give a strange analogy, if someone gathers all the materials needed to make a bomb, but doesn't mix them together, they can still be arrested for bomb-making, even though, in a strictly chemical sense, they haven't made anything that can donate.

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