At work, we spend a LOT of money with heroku every month. We really wanted to use Protobuffers (please let's not discuss that ;) ), which require HTTP 2 for the streaming stuff. So we talked with them and were like "heyy, we need this" and while they didn't explicitly say they weren't going to support it, the response basically boiled down to "yeah, i wouldn't be holding your breath" ;)

You can use protobuff without gRPC if that helps for your use case. Twitch has open sourced their HTTP1 protobuff client/server library: https://github.com/twitchtv/twirp

We added support for HTTP2, GRPC and streaming at Northflank recently. Could be a good choice for your team. Here is the changelog https://northflank.com/changelog/introducing-http-2-and-grpc...

As a Heroku customer, I'd appreciate a migration guide from Heroku to Northflank in your docs. What are the equivalent services (nodejs dynos, worker, scheduler, postgres, papertrail) and what are the steps to move. Thanks

I’m actually reading these comments specifically for mentions of alternatives. I thought it was done in good taste.

I personally prefer having someone from sales read three levels deep into a relevant message thread, vs. pretty much any other tactic, so YMMV.

It's a relevant sales pitch, and I myself learned about an alternative to Heroku, which was a nice gain.

I agree with the anti-pitch premise but am surprised by the backlash as it seems pretty common in my experience.

Belters don't want Inners pitching their services...

But for real, replying "we can do that!" in reply to a comment about a product seems alright as long as it's lightly sprinkled and not constant.

Had to look it up so here it is, from the TV show, The Expanse:

"Belter is a term used to refer to persons born in the Asteroid Belt or the Moons of the outer planets. An inner usually refers to someone who originated from the Inner planets of the Sol system, but usually meaning from Earth, Luna, or Mars."

The account I responded to is "beltalowda" which is a term in the series.

It seems pretty contextual to me, FWIW: the goal is to be useful and this is useful given the very specific pain point.

> ironically, HN MADE reddit

No, it didn’t. PG made HN after funding and using Reddit.

Reddit had invite-only subreddits at that time and Joel Spolsky’s even had some traction. PG considered doing something similar but decided it wasn’t flexible enough for his needs and made HN.

I should have been more specific ; YC made reddit.

I'm sure, you knew what I meant, but I still should have been more clear.

Does Salesforce really have any motivation to update the cheaper Heroku instead of direct people toward their more expensive options?

But those "more expensive options" are completely different services, right? This is like "why should Lenovo market monitors when they're also selling their more expensive laptops?"

In my experience developing salesforce stuff in the past, forcing people into the wrong services while charging a fortune for the headache and lockin is their entire business model.

There is nothing in common with SFDC and Heroku.

Even when making a custom app with Salesforce Data, you are severely constricted wrt the amount of apex code and the data speed.

curl -i https://api.heroku.com/ | grep 'HTTP/2'

That's just the API, not the service for your apps.