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Re:Equality is prevented by the misperception that it harms ... by turtledove on Monday May 09, 2022 @02:48AM (#31311324)
I'm trying to imagine how you would quantify how marginalized someone is. Black Americans have challenges, women in America have challenges, Black Women in America have challenges that are unique from either Black Americans or women. (When people talk about intersectionality, this is what they mean.)

How does being queer interact with being from West Virginia, or being poor and and having celiac.

There's just too many factors, you cannot just calculate them all, because they are not independent variables.

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Re:Equality is prevented by the misperception that it harms ... by CryptoPunk on Monday May 09, 2022 @05:21AM (#31312098)
Every one has challenges. Claiming certain groups have more challenges implies being able to measure the difficulty of challenges, in order to be able to ascertain the challenges of one group are greater than the norm.
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Re:Equality is prevented by the misperception that it harms ... by turtledove on Monday May 09, 2022 @12:25PM (#31316150)
I can't tell you how much concrete there is in my house, I can't tell you how much concrete there is in the apartment building down the block.

I can tell you with near certainty that the apartment building has more concrete. Even if I've never been inside it.

Likewise, I can't measure the amount of challenge I faced (they were significant), I can't tell you the amount of challenge a trans kid faces. I can tell you with near certainty the trans kid faces more.

You don't need to measure, you don't need to be exact. Opportunity is wildly uneven right now. We can absolutely level things, and worry about whether we over corrected later.

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Re:Equality is prevented by the misperception that it harms ... by Slamidan on Monday May 09, 2022 @11:22AM (#31315302)
Biggest one of all they always exclude is genetics, intelligence, predisposition, drive, these are not evenly distributed, and why would they be under a system of evolution.
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