Equality is prevented by the misperception that it harms advantaged groups

Re:Equality is prevented by the misperception that it harms ... by rendall on Sunday May 08, 2022 @02:39PM (#31306816)

> Your take assumes that highly paid highly respected jobs aren't a limited resource.

The economy expands to accommodate talent. Jobs are bounded by it. Magically double our collective intelligence, and what we understand as a "job" would cease to have meaning. Suddenly double the number of engineers, and our economy would boom.

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Re:Equality is prevented by the misperception that it harms ... by fxtentacle on Sunday May 08, 2022 @06:48PM (#31308766)

On a 10 year timescale, I would agree with you.

But for the student finishing a master's degree, the only metric that matters is "PhD openings available this year". And short-term, job openings are zero sum.

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Re:Equality is prevented by the misperception that it harms ... by ghufran_syed on Sunday May 08, 2022 @02:51PM (#31306930)

Yes, if we use "intelligence" as our metric when hiring, rather than using race. So why would we promote the latter instead of the former?

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Re:Equality is prevented by the misperception that it harms ... by rendall on Sunday May 08, 2022 @03:00PM (#31307044)

The discussion here is whether equality is zero-sum: disadvantageous to "advantaged groups". The argument for this view is that there are a limited number of jobs. If we were talking about dockworkers or factory workers maybe that's a point. My argument is that this lacks imagination. Were talking about enabling talent and creativity. The number of opportunities thereby expands to accommodate the extra number of talented people who recognize and pursue them.

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