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Re:Apple, Google and Microsoft Commit to Expanded Support fo... by lxgr on Thursday May 05, 2022 @06:10PM (#31278931)
If you have malware on your computer (that can compromise the browser), it can just wait until you actually log in to your bank and then grab the session cookie/proxy away your authentication.

It's a different story if the operation you are confirming with a security key actually can be rendered on the display, e.g. "pay $100 to someshop.com" (as in SPC [1]). In that scenario, there is actually nothing to steal except for the signed message itself, which would be useless to anybody that's not someshop.com, but given that WebAuthN almost always just yields a session cookie, I don't really see the benefit.

[1] https://www.w3.org/TR/secure-payment-confirmation/

Re:Apple, Google and Microsoft Commit to Expanded Support fo... by nybble41 on Thursday May 05, 2022 @06:24PM (#31279045)
> If you have malware on your computer (that can compromise the browser), it can just wait until you actually log in to your bank and then grab the session cookie/proxy away your authentication.

Sure, but you might never log in to your bank from this particular computer precisely because you don't trust it. But you think it's fine to log in to your hobby account since that doesn't store anything you really consider important.

If you assume there is never any malware on the host then you don't need the key at all—the host can store the secrets and handle the authentication on its own.

Re:Apple, Google and Microsoft Commit to Expanded Support fo... by lxgr on Thursday May 05, 2022 @06:48PM (#31279236)
Oh, that's a good point – I personally never use my security key at untrusted computers, but I guess this could be a somewhat common use case.

> If you assume there is never any malware on the host then you don't need the key at all—the host can store the secrets and handle the authentication on its own.

True, a permanently plugged in authenticator is largely equivalent to just using a password manager (which also prevents against skimming, if used exclusively via autofill, never via copy/paste), but unlike a password mananger, it makes unsafe actions explicitly impossible for non-sophisticated users. I'd consider this a strong advantage.

It also survives OS reinstalls, ransomware etc.