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Re:The UX of Paid Journalism by isawczuk on Thursday May 05, 2022 @06:51AM (#31271733)
If it works, it's not bad UX it's dark UX. It would be great to ask WSJ if they considered A/B tests?
Re:The UX of Paid Journalism by trhoad on Thursday May 05, 2022 @07:11AM (#31271876)
I think the point is it doesn't work. The author had the time, inclination, and technical ability to get through the bullshit and eventually cancel. A lot of people won't.
Re:The UX of Paid Journalism by thaeli on Thursday May 05, 2022 @07:47AM (#31272111)
Which means it does work, as a malpattern. If your customers can't get through the bullshit to cancel that reduces churn.

(Though this ignores the consumer-side counter, which is sort of a malpattern but IMO justified when the company makes cancellation difficult, of just cancelling the credit card authorization. Code 41 chargebacks are a beautiful thing.)

Re:The UX of Paid Journalism by nvr219 on Thursday May 05, 2022 @02:37PM (#31276969)
> If it works, it's not bad UX it's dark UX

How are you measuring that it works? Are they getting better subscriber numbers with this UX than they would with a simpler one?

Re:The UX of Paid Journalism by rchaud on Thursday May 05, 2022 @09:01AM (#31272763)
WSJ basically invented the paywall in 2007 (back when other major newspaper websites were 100% free) so they've probably done a fair amount of usability and A/B tests.

Chances are that they're trying to optimize for things that are different from the things you or I wish they optimized for.

Re:The UX of Paid Journalism by dsr_ on Thursday May 05, 2022 @10:34AM (#31273878)
Counterpoint: quite possibly they look at their large number of subscribers and take that as all the evidence that they need that there is nothing wrong with their subscription process.
Re:The UX of Paid Journalism by rchaud on Thursday May 05, 2022 @12:10PM (#31275171)
Their retention rate is pretty high because the competition can't really achieve the same depth of coverage. This would be a "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" situation. Not everyone needs a WSJ subscription. Those that do either have a business plan or invest in a personal plan if they're say, MBA students. For most other people, WSJ is too stuffy and business-focused to be worth the cost.

There's a reason why WSJ is considered gold standard of financial/business papers, and upstarts like BusinessInsider and QZ fall far short and have to target a poorer niche of general-interest users.