I fell in love with low-JS

Re:I fell in love with low-JS by lolinder on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @08:25PM (#31267763)

The problem there isn't with React, it's with people who build websites out of a tool that's designed for huge applications.

Most websites shouldn't be built with React. Most single-story buildings shouldn't be built out of steel I beams. That doesn't make them a bad material, it just means you shouldn't use them if a simpler material will do.

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Re:I fell in love with low-JS by andrei_says_ on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @09:36PM (#31268312)

> Most single-story buildings shouldn't be built out of steel I beams.

But many are! This is the issue. 10-50x the effort, complexity, hours, expense. Lots and lots of steel, everywhere, because managers heard that Megacorp uses steel and now insist on it.

Steel beams everywhere.

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Re:I fell in love with low-JS by BeFlatXIII on Thursday May 05, 2022 @08:47AM (#31272651)

Time to develop a low-JS vanilla SPA framework called "Jet Fuel"

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Re:I fell in love with low-JS by lsalvatore on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @09:42PM (#31268357)

Hey actually React has nothing to do with Megacorp at all. We adopted React in 2015 on a small team (less than 10 engineers) as did many other small startups at that time. The decision to use React on a small team is the same as it would be on a large team: It dramatically changes frontend development. It makes this career worth while. I did 5 years before React, and now still using React 7 years after with no competitor in sight.

I don't use React because I'm being forced to. We chose React!

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Re:I fell in love with low-JS by radicalbyte on Thursday May 05, 2022 @04:52AM (#31271088)

Depends on the problem that small team is solving. I've used SPAs on several "small" teams (Angular*, Backbone.js) and they are very effective for solving the kind of problems that are otherwise solved by native applications (winforms and the like). When you have hundreds or thousands of forms / screens in a system then SPAs provide a large reduction in complexity.

For websites: we all like to dump on PHP but it was literally designed to build websites with relatively limited features / large reach - which covers a large swathe of the web.

So SPA: good for ERPs, CRMs etc but bad for webshops, social networks, TODO apps, news sites, Streaming sites, blogs etc.

[Why Angular? React is technically interesting, especially that it's build around the Rx pattern popularized in dotnet, however I have a deep-seated hate for Facebook for their key part in making Brexit happen which trumps any technical merit. Vue wasn't a thing back then]

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Re:I fell in love with low-JS by pseudosavant on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @08:53PM (#31267996)

This 1000x. Every nail looks like a React app. Most frameworks are overkill for most sites/apps. There are definitely ones that need that level of architecture, but that isn't most of the time.

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Re:I fell in love with low-JS by mrits on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @10:53PM (#31268827)

Steel is superior to wood in almost every way. Currently they are almost the same price as LVL beams with out the 4+ back order wait.

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Re:I fell in love with low-JS by jbverschoor on Thursday May 05, 2022 @12:13AM (#31269372)

Thank you sir, for you sir comment of sanity

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