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Re:CDC tracked millions of phones to see if Americans follow... by sidewndr46 on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @02:15PM (#31263947)
No, government research is not "to protect non-smokers from corporations that are trying to trick them into an addiction and also from smokers who fill shared air with carcinogens". This is explicitly what the Master Settlement Agreement does in 46 states. Marketing of tobacco products is nearly eliminated under the MSA. Anti smoking advocacy groups were formed. The pro-tobacco industries groups were dissolved.

If the MSA is failing at that, the solution is to void the agreement and coerce the tobacco industry into another one with updated statues. Not to expand the CDC into areas like tax policy.

And really - "preventing your children from starting to smoke"? There is no research that needs to be done in this area. The industry can't market to children. The industry can't sell to children. There are no shortage of smokers who shared their plight before their death (Yul Brynner comes to mind). If all that isn't enough to stop the problem, then the problem lies elsewhere in society. No more money needs to be evaporated into this "research".

Re:CDC tracked millions of phones to see if Americans follow... by smt88 on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @03:06PM (#31264540)
> If all that isn't enough to stop the problem, then the problem lies elsewhere in society.

That is what they're researching: how to stop people from harming themselves, others, and society by smoking.

Tobacco companies can't market directly to children, but they have been working around it in many ways for decades. The latest method is vaping.

Science and policy are not "one and done". We need to know if past policies were mistakes, and we need to adapt new policies to changes in tactics by bad actors.

Re:CDC tracked millions of phones to see if Americans follow... by sidewndr46 on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @03:35PM (#31264818)
If vaping is an issue, then the legislature and AG of each state should draft a letter to any companies selling vaping products telling them that they are expected to sign the MSA by a given date. If that doesn't happen, ban the companies products completely and forever. There is no need to waste money researching it. It's nicotine. It's addictive. It's a carcinogen. This has been known for much, much longer than I have been alive.

Coercion is the literal function of government.

The issue is, government is too spineless to ever actually do that. Governments have become dependent on the money that flows in from taxes on those products and settlements like the MSA. They can't actually make good on the threat to ban them because they depend on the money.

So instead we get "research", "negotiations", and "compromise". Which are all a waste of taxpayer money. The US has some of the most brutal punishments in the world for drug trafficking and possession (I think China is actually worse, but I am unsure) for individuals. But we can't just ban the marketing of nicotine containing products and accessories? I don't buy it.