Re:The Google incentive mismatch: Problems with promotion-or...
by leros on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @01:25PM
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It's a retention issue. If people don't level up fast enough and get raises they'll leave for another company.
Re:The Google incentive mismatch: Problems with promotion-or...
by akmr726 on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @06:29PM
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This is underlying problem with promotion culture, I am in a big financial firm, my whole team wants to get promoted every 1-1.5 year. I feel people are not really learning how to write and manage software systems properly due to this.
Re:The Google incentive mismatch: Problems with promotion-or...
by _j5l3 on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @03:51PM
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At Google at least, if you stay low level for too long, you get fired. If your team is full of low level people maintaining a project that's stable, you need to invent work to justify your existence.
Re:The Google incentive mismatch: Problems with promotion-or...
by ceras on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @07:44PM
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You only need one promotion, L3 (entry level) to L4 (mid level), to not get fired at Google. And the company is quite generous with how long it gives you to get there. L3 to L4 is basically about writing good code on your own, and isn't really affected by promo culture -- doesn't really need shiny work.
Several years back, you had to also eventually get to L5. This was more affected by promo culture, but was also largely unenforced, which is why they get rid of the formal requirement to get to L5.
Re:The Google incentive mismatch: Problems with promotion-or...
by _j5l3 on Thursday May 05, 2022 @05:32PM
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> L3 to L4 is basically about writing good code on your own, and isn't really affected by promo culture
I'm unsarcastically glad that you had a different experience at Google than me. This was not my experience, nor the experience of anyone else on my immediate team.
Re:The Google incentive mismatch: Problems with promotion-or...
by hn_go_brrrrr on Thursday May 05, 2022 @03:46AM
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It was worse than "largely unenforced", it was unevenly enforced, depending on your management chain.
Would the goal be to promote everyone? Who's going to do the work they all used to do?