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Re:Stripe Financial Connections by gigatexal on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @12:33PM (#31262737)
If they do this it would indeed be huge. Screen scraping and the like to get around a proper API sucks. In the EU we have PSD2 but the APIs aren’t all amazing.
Re:Stripe Financial Connections by jbverschoor on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @12:49PM (#31262923)
The APIs aren't amazing, and you need to be a financial service provider to access production environment. Aka useless for any startup or person
Re:Stripe Financial Connections by gigatexal on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @04:13PM (#31265231)
Yeah getting a license with bafin is tough but a VC backed fintech can do it or partner or use the api of a fintech that already has a license and build off of that.
Re:Stripe Financial Connections by andy_ppp on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @12:49PM (#31262914)
Also every 90 days you have to do some weird dance to keep the apps receiving your data, it never seems to work right and you forget. I would think building a business on such flakey APIs is dubious at best!
Re:Stripe Financial Connections by dylan604 on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @12:54PM (#31262983)
To fight that flakey situation of bad APIs, one decides to build a business based on flakey screen scraping instead? With financial information? What could possibly go wrong?
Re:Stripe Financial Connections by dakev on Friday May 06, 2022 @05:35AM (#31283190)
What's the alternative? 95% of banks in the US don't have a dedicated API. If there was no screen scraping whatsoever in the industry, then the fintech market would be much smaller. Any fintech company whose product is centered their users' financial information (and that's most of them) would see their potential customer base, and thus growth potential, sliced in half. On the consumer side of it, if you're Susan and you bank with Northeast Minnesota's Credit Union for Educators, then without screen scraping you are essentially cut off from being able to use the majority of fintech applications out there.

Screen scraping is a terrible compromise for sure, but without it, fintech, and the everyday consumer's ability to more effectively engage with their finances, would be severely neutered. One day, we'll have a rich financial ecosystem where financial institutions, fintechs, and consumers all talk with eachother exclusively through secure, reliable APIs, but until then, the only other alternative is to cripple this entire industry. Or have Congress pass a sweeping PSD2-esque bill, but good luck with that lol

Re:Stripe Financial Connections by andy_ppp on Friday May 06, 2022 @05:42AM (#31283230)
I like the APIs but every 90 days is too many lost users I bet. I think it would be nice if the renewal worked like this -> 1st permissions -> 90 days, 2nd authorisation 180 days, 3rd 365 days and then every renewal after that is a year. Would reduce churn from this by probably 75%...

Even better it would be best if it just emailed you every 90 days asking if you wanted to remove/continue with permissions and did token rolling automatically without the user being involved.

Imagine if you had to renew your account for Facebook every 90 days, I think they would never have built a business.

Re:Stripe Financial Connections by dylan604 on Friday May 06, 2022 @10:52AM (#31285849)
>Imagine if you had to renew your account for Facebook every 90 days, I think they would never have built a business.

You're not winning any sympathy from me with this at all.

Re:Stripe Financial Connections by andy_ppp on Friday May 06, 2022 @12:10PM (#31286847)
Ahah, but you understand the point ;-)
Re:Stripe Financial Connections by gigatexal on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @05:59PM (#31266406)
This is still a ton better than asking the client for credentials and then scraping their logged in bank accounts which is hella creepy.