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Re:Criticizing Hare language approach for generic data struc... by HL33tibCe7 on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @09:21AM (#31259992)
If the author of Hare didn't want feedback on his language, or didn't want other people to use his language, he shouldn't have advertised it in blog posts and on sites like https://harelang.org/, which is clearly an advertisement for the language. As it happens, he has.

You might think "nobody will use the language", but if nobody pushes back and says why people shouldn't use the language, perhaps people will start to. It's really important that people do write feedback pieces like this, because it helps other people be informed about their choices.

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Re:Criticizing Hare language approach for generic data struc... by lijogdfljk on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @09:50AM (#31260365)
Also early on in the language seems a great time to respond to feedback. 3 years in when it has traction is terrible, heh.
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Re:Criticizing Hare language approach for generic data struc... by mariusor on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @11:44AM (#31262082)
So what you're saying is basically: "he's asking for it", right?
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Re:Criticizing Hare language approach for generic data struc... by avgcorrection on Thursday May 05, 2022 @02:37PM (#31276977)
That counter doesn’t have much force to it when we’re talking about mere argumentation and not violence.
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Re:Criticizing Hare language approach for generic data struc... by HL33tibCe7 on Wednesday May 04, 2022 @12:05PM (#31262359)
That's the point I make in the first paragraph, essentially. But the second paragraph is another reason.
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Re:Criticizing Hare language approach for generic data struc... by mariusor on Thursday May 05, 2022 @07:03AM (#31271824)
Do you think that this type of argument has more value when talking about Drew than about a victim of sexual abuse? I think the rhetoric of "asking for it" works equally poorly when applied to all aspects.

And I will assume that your next comment will be about how the two don't compare. And I am in full agreement with that, except for the fact that trivializing abuse is another element that people use in this type of debate, and I believe that abuse is abuse. It might not have the same emotional impact on the victim, but the abuser psychology is similar in all cases, and the slippery slope of losing sensitivity to it begins with accepting discussion board bullying as normal.

PS. However this discussion is at least an order of magnitude removed from TFA, which is not abusive, merely presumptuous and premature.

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