Re:Google fires another AI researcher who reportedly challen...
by skoskie on Monday May 02, 2022 @11:30AM
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Out of curiosity, are there any institutions that meets a “pure” research standard? NIST?
Or is that standard unattainable because undue influence exists everywhere?
Re:Google fires another AI researcher who reportedly challen...
by canaus on Monday May 02, 2022 @11:33AM
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Influence exists everywhere because without influence the studies wouldn't exist in the first place.
Re:Google fires another AI researcher who reportedly challen...
by azinman2 on Monday May 02, 2022 @11:39AM
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And people need careers, successful publications and grants make that possible.
That isn’t to say everything is trash— lots of good stuff is still done with these requirements.
Re:Google fires another AI researcher who reportedly challen...
by lupire on Monday May 02, 2022 @12:32PM
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Unless you have a wealthy aristocracy and some of them are bored so they create a lot of the major science of past couple of centuries.
Re:Google fires another AI researcher who reportedly challen...
by guhidalg on Monday May 02, 2022 @11:43AM
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Get a private wealthy benefactor that likes your work, then you can avoid undue influence.
Re:Google fires another AI researcher who reportedly challen...
by rank0 on Monday May 02, 2022 @11:45AM
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Now the influence just comes from the wealthy benefactor and his interests
Re:Google fires another AI researcher who reportedly challen...
by lupire on Monday May 02, 2022 @12:33PM
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Works best when the benefactor is your dead parents.
Re:Google fires another AI researcher who reportedly challen...
by thebean11 on Monday May 02, 2022 @11:45AM
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..until the wealthy benefactor decides to exert it anyway
Re:Google fires another AI researcher who reportedly challen...
by Barrin92 on Monday May 02, 2022 @11:43AM
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That's in principle what academic tenure is for, it guarantees independence and research freedom. And while you may talk about how there's always this or that political topic that anyone will shy away from, at least in the hard sciences I think academic freedom is largely intact.
In a company you can always be fired and the singular goal is the bottom line. Much more so since modern companies seem to not operate with the mentality of the old corporate research labs like Bell, but keep a much tighter lid on things, always pushing for products.
There is a lot of "garbage" research that happens at universities. Yes, we do expect quite a bit of research to be dead-ends --that's the nature of research, but there is a lot of research that is knowingly fraudulent or uses very suspect data and or methodology.