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Re:Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular by reverend_gonzo on Saturday April 30, 2022 @06:28PM (#31220065)
Sounds like a forever aloner.

I know multiple tall, classically good looking men who, while they can can get dates, can not maintain them because they have zero relationship skills, and I know just as many short men who have a relationship whenever they want.

While height might be an early filter, it is by no means the only source of attraction. Men would do well to build the rest of their personalities to stand themselves out rather than complain about something they have no control over.

Re:Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular by aortega on Saturday April 30, 2022 @06:32PM (#31220090)
>Sounds like a forever aloner.

This social disqualification is the reason the truth remains hidden. I'm only 5'9 and have a family, but this was way before social networks and online dating. The world is different now.

>I know

Yes I know many data points that fall outside the curve too. But I'm talking about the curve.

Re:Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular by reverend_gonzo on Saturday April 30, 2022 @08:14PM (#31220815)
I’m 5’8”, Asian, married to an American, and have a family, and I got all this after social networks and tinder, et al came along.
Re:Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular by nosianu on Saturday April 30, 2022 @09:15PM (#31221146)
Funny. After the parent commenter says

> Yes I know many data points that fall outside the curve too. But I'm talking about the curve.

you respond with a data sample of 1.

I have no idea who is right - assuming country=US in any case, since most of the data and experiences are from there - but come on.

Re:Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular by reverend_gonzo on Saturday April 30, 2022 @09:31PM (#31221245)
> Basically this means that in modern dating, if you are short, you are very likely to die alone and this trend will only get worse in the future.

This is his claim. I call bullshit.

Re:Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular by Jensson on Saturday April 30, 2022 @10:28PM (#31221583)
The other great factor for dating success for men is income. You can offset being short by earning a lot of money. Since you are here on HN I assume you earn way more than average Americans.

Each inch of height corresponds to about $25k of yearly income on the attractiveness scale. Do the math, are you still below average? Note that income isn't just what you earn, but what you can be expected to earn in the future, so even if you met a woman as a bright computer science student you would still expect to earn a lot of money.

http://home.uchicago.edu/~hortacsu/onlinedating.pdf

Re:Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular by aortega on Sunday May 01, 2022 @03:34AM (#31222957)
It's the same as saying 'You can offset being short by being a rock star' yes, I suppose you could.
Re:Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular by FooBarWidget on Saturday April 30, 2022 @06:37PM (#31220135)
Well ok but all the relationship skills in the world can't help you if you can't get past that initial filter.
Re:Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular by withinboredom on Saturday April 30, 2022 @07:59PM (#31220715)
Confidence gets you past any initial filter (not to be confused with arrogance or assertiveness — be respectful).

Once you get serious, it’s the bigger filters you need to worry about IME.

My then new girlfriend’s friend asked me out of nowhere: “what’s a derivative?” And my answer was “investing or calculus?” Apparently that was a filter for my wife when she dated. She wanted smart men who weren’t just faking it, wouldn’t just start talking about things because they knew something about it, etc. Her and her friend had that simple question. I was basically the first guy to pass it. Hell, I even had some basic filters, like going on a road trip together. Eventually, got married, made babies, and travel around the world. I got lucky — met her semi-randomly on the beach through mutual friends. Neither one of us were looking for a relationship at the time.

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Re:Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular by fredophile on Saturday April 30, 2022 @08:26PM (#31220874)
If you're meeting online, which is very common, you can get filtered out well before the first time you meet and can show off your confidence.
Re:Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular by rayiner on Saturday April 30, 2022 @09:11PM (#31221123)
> Apparently that was a filter for my wife when she dated.

What a keeper! My wife randomly invoked Coase theorem the other day while we were chatting on our commute home. Coming up on ten years now. :)

Re:Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular by tptacek on Saturday April 30, 2022 @09:57PM (#31221395)
Congrats!
Re:Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular by rayiner on Saturday April 30, 2022 @10:30PM (#31221597)
Why thank you!
Re:Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular by zeven7 on Saturday April 30, 2022 @09:25PM (#31221203)
I would be turned off by that filter, but then maybe your wife's not for me.
Re:Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular by guskel on Sunday May 01, 2022 @03:21AM (#31222904)
Confidence won’t help if you aren’t meeting the other party’s attractiveness threshold.
Re:Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular by scythe on Saturday April 30, 2022 @08:22PM (#31220849)
>Men would do well to build the rest of their personalities to stand themselves out rather than complain about something they have no control over.

Are you saying that he's missing out on lots of opportunities for self-improvement in the two minutes or less it took to write that comment? It's not wrong for people to complain about things that negatively affect them, and it's not mutually exclusive with trying to fix the problem. There is really no justification for the insistence that short men must not complain at all.

Re:Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular by guskel on Sunday May 01, 2022 @03:23AM (#31222916)
Yes, there’s this kind of hidden assumption that these men aren’t trying, that they haven’t done every obvious thing already.
Re:Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular by reverend_gonzo on Saturday April 30, 2022 @09:05PM (#31221089)
If you are complaining about anything, then yes, that energy is better spent elsewhere.
Re:Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular by scythe on Saturday April 30, 2022 @09:55PM (#31221383)
>If you are complaining about anything, then yes, that energy is better spent elsewhere.

This is a remarkably unhealthy attitude, and callous to boot.

Re:Limb lengthening surgery is becoming more popular by ss108 on Saturday April 30, 2022 @11:54PM (#31222050)
? Seems like a generally healthy attitude to me, though that poster may be taking it to an extreme.