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Re:Is everything falling apart? by 4ggr0 on Friday April 29, 2022 @04:12PM (#31210094)
I know what you mean. But pronouns which relate to social gender can be differentiated from sex/biological gender.

To rewrite your original comment, "Lia Thomas, who was born male, was permitted to compete on the basis of her gender identity claims" would be a fine and understandable statement, I think.

When talking about the person Lia Thomas, we are talking about a woman. She's Lia Thomas. Yes, she was assigned male at birth and her biological gender is male, but the person is female.

Again, I am maybe a bit petty, but I think this is exactly one of these important aspects when talking about transsexuality.

I'm not really disagreeing with what you're essentially saying, just trying to make a point about transsexuality.

Re:Is everything falling apart? by lbj on Friday April 29, 2022 @06:23PM (#31211283)
Thomas has said himself, that he does not care about pronouns, as long as he gets to destroy women sports, so I don't understand why you're so offended on his behalf.

Having said that, of course he's not a woman. No doctor in the world would disagree with me on that. You're deluded by some kind of ideology which puts even Idiocracy to shame. Snap out of it.

Re:Is everything falling apart? by 4ggr0 on Friday April 29, 2022 @07:35PM (#31211826)
> Thomas has said himself, that he does not care about pronouns, as long as he gets to destroy women sports

Source?

> don't understand why you're so offended

I'm not offended, why else would I mention multiple times that I'm being petty, but trying to make a point and start a conversation about transsexuality.

> Having said that, of course he's not a woman. No doctor in the world would disagree with me on that

Yet another person who doesn't understand the difference between sex and gender and instead decides to belittle me. Nothing I haven't experienced yet, still disappointing.

Re:Is everything falling apart? by ttytg on Friday April 29, 2022 @07:09PM (#31211647)
I see your point, but I think one has to take the context of the conversation into account too.

In a social situation involving a transgender person, it's considered polite to use pronouns that won't exacerbate any gender dysphoria they may feel. I would think that most of us have done this at some point, as a kindness.

However if we're discussing a controversial public figure, and the topic is sex versus gender identity, I feel it makes more sense to use pronouns that match up with material reality, for the sake of clarity.