Re:Ask HN: Is the EULA on my new $30k RED cinema camera legal?
by paulcole on Friday April 29, 2022 @02:15PM
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Does it even matter if it’s legal or not? What would you rather do, use the camera or spend your time/money fighting it?
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Re:Ask HN: Is the EULA on my new $30k RED cinema camera legal?
by red_throwaway on Friday April 29, 2022 @02:24PM
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If it means what I think it means, I'd rather return it and invest in a company that doesn't abuse their users.
Re:Ask HN: Is the EULA on my new $30k RED cinema camera legal?
by jeroenhd on Friday April 29, 2022 @02:41PM
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If you're uncomfortable with these terms you should return the product and ask for your money back. It's perfectly legal as far as I know (IANAL).
This reads like a typical "we collect telemetry and there's nothing you can do about it" disclaimer, which I personally find quite offensive for such an expensive piece of kit. Just the 30k you paid is more than enough to fund a whole development cycle to add an opt-in dialogue to the camera software.
I don't know if you'll find any equivalent hardware that don't include such policies in their EULA, though.
Re:Ask HN: Is the EULA on my new $30k RED cinema camera legal?
by core-utility on Friday April 29, 2022 @03:29PM
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RED is used by major film studios all over the place, on films that I'm sure many would pay good money to see early clips or b-roll of. If they don't have a concern of RED collecting this, it's unlikely you have a problem.
Not to mention, exfiltrating actual recordings would be crazy amounts of data. Unless you see in your internet traffic that the camera is uploading at several MB/s for hours on end, they're not doing what you claim they're doing.
Re:Ask HN: Is the EULA on my new $30k RED cinema camera legal?
by HelloNurse on Friday April 29, 2022 @05:16PM
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Obviously, use another camera, paid with the refund/damages/settlement from RED.