Re:SELinux is unmanageable; just turn it off if it gets in y...
by fargle on Wednesday April 27, 2022 @10:13AM
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really? I don't mean understand how to apply a new label. I mean understand what the policies are and how they work, be able to create new ones that apply to you, and verify that the ones given to you by the distro are correct for your use. You're saying this is not hard to understand: https://github.com/SELinuxProject/refpolicy/blob/master/poli... ?
Otherwise you are blindly applying some black box.
Re:SELinux is unmanageable; just turn it off if it gets in y...
by d2wa on Wednesday April 27, 2022 @03:26AM
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But what am I, as the sysadmin, supposed to label things? Even if I know that I probably need to apply some labels, how do I find out what the policies are? What labels can interact with this program? You can turn to Google and find some incantations in a blog or forum post from ten years ago, but you can‘t easily see which labels a program is allowed to interact with or not. (If you even know to ask that question.)
Re:SELinux is unmanageable; just turn it off if it gets in y...
by dale_glass on Wednesday April 27, 2022 @06:40AM
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Fedora comes with manpages. So for instance, say you want to place http pages outside of /var/www. Fedora comes with the selinux-policy-doc package, which gives you the httpd_selinux manpage:
https://linux.die.net/man/8/httpd_selinux
It's a tad dense, but in the Sharing Files you can find a section explaining what context is used and for what. You can also look at the existing context, eg:
$ ls -laZ /var/www
total 4
drwxr-xr-x. 4 root root system_u:object_r:httpd_sys_content_t:s0 33 mar 17 17:32 .
drwxr-xr-x. 21 root root system_u:object_r:var_t:s0 4096 abr 18 10:57 ..
drwxr-xr-x. 2 root root system_u:object_r:httpd_sys_script_exec_t:s0 6 mar 17 17:32 cgi-bin
drwxr-xr-x. 2 root root system_u:object_r:httpd_sys_content_t:s0 6 mar 17 17:32 html
And copy those for your own use.
Re:SELinux is unmanageable; just turn it off if it gets in y...
by chr15p on Wednesday April 27, 2022 @07:07AM
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sesearch -A
That shows the list of what labels are allowed to do what to which labels, so run ps -Z to get the label of your process and grep the sesearch output for it, and that will tell you what labels it's allowed to interact with and in what ways.
selinux is generally pretty straightforward, but it has a reputation for being impenetrable which puts people of trying to learn it.
That is not true. SELinux is not hard to understand nor change. Most of the issues you might encounter are simply solved by changing a label in a file or directory. It is just not straightforward to debug and understand if you don't know it is there. I think most people who complain about it are multi distros/OS users and just only realize after losing precious time that an issue is selinux related.