Re:An update on the campaign to defend serious math educatio...
by klabb3 on Tuesday April 26, 2022 @09:18PM
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Not parent, but I agree with them.
> Some observable differences are due to social factors.
> Some observable differences by certain groups are the result of past actions by other groups.
Agreed with this as well.
> You should favor policies to correct for the result of past harms.
Mostly disagree. I'm wholly convinced there's never going to be even remote consensus about ancestral oppression and victimhood. I think that if you want to correct harms, you should focus on the current social issues. Not only do I think that has much less shitty side effects (such as exacerbating group identity), but I also think it will be more effective at reaching those that have been mistreated in the past - both directly and their ancestors. The US in particular has, let's say, a decent amount of low-hanging fruit in terms of social issues to address (homelessness, lack of preventative health care, incarceration for victimless crimes etc etc).
> there's no need to try to mitigate things, everything is peachy
This is not the only option. You can recognize that things are fucked but have a vastly different opinion on how to improve.
> Some observable differences are due to social factors.
> Some observable differences by certain groups are the result of past actions by other groups.
Agreed with this as well.
> You should favor policies to correct for the result of past harms.
Mostly disagree. I'm wholly convinced there's never going to be even remote consensus about ancestral oppression and victimhood. I think that if you want to correct harms, you should focus on the current social issues. Not only do I think that has much less shitty side effects (such as exacerbating group identity), but I also think it will be more effective at reaching those that have been mistreated in the past - both directly and their ancestors. The US in particular has, let's say, a decent amount of low-hanging fruit in terms of social issues to address (homelessness, lack of preventative health care, incarceration for victimless crimes etc etc).
> there's no need to try to mitigate things, everything is peachy
This is not the only option. You can recognize that things are fucked but have a vastly different opinion on how to improve.