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Re:Whats New in PHP 8.2 by vegai_ on Monday April 25, 2022 @04:23PM (#31160087)
This. PHP is PHP just like Javascript is Javascript. Their growth process was a bunch of people needing things and just implementing them one by one without a grand design. It kinda works, but it'll never be Good in a theoretical sense.

Disturbingly for us language geeks, it doesn't seem to matter at all that they're not very good.

Re:Whats New in PHP 8.2 by astrange on Monday April 25, 2022 @07:38PM (#31162267)
PHP has value types - the one "every data structure at once" type gets deep copied when you pass it to another function. That's enough to make it a good programming language, whereas Python is unnecessarily 90s class-based OOP with reference types.
Re:Whats New in PHP 8.2 by vegai_ on Tuesday April 26, 2022 @06:20AM (#31165703)
I don't quite understand what you mean here. Do you have an example?
Re:Whats New in PHP 8.2 by astrange on Tuesday April 26, 2022 @04:46PM (#31172945)
If you have a dictionary and pass it around to someone else's code and it gets changed, those changes affect your code too instead of copying it, which is annoying and less safe.