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Re:Twitter set to accept Musk's $43B offer – sources by raspberry1337 on Monday April 25, 2022 @11:04AM (#31155886)
>the historically oppressed population

Are we living in the past now, or what is your point? Not all white "moderate" (whatever that means) live privilieged lives

Re:Twitter set to accept Musk's $43B offer – sources by weakfish on Monday April 25, 2022 @11:36AM (#31156368)
> Not all white "moderate" (whatever that means) live privilieged lives

And I didn't say that they did. I'm just saying that proclaiming that you're white and male doesn't give me any information that would lead me to assume that you are marginalized. That doesn't mean you can't be in some capacity or that you must be privileged, it just means that people who look like that typically are less marginalized than people who are, say, Black or Hispanic.

There's a broad spectrum of marginalizations that exist, such as disability or economic - you can be marginalized as a disabled white guy! That's absolutely true! But when speaking purely about race or ethnicity, it's helpful to realize that people of color broadly experience far more racism.

Re:Twitter set to accept Musk's $43B offer – sources by smaryjerry on Monday April 25, 2022 @01:28PM (#31158042)
What’s stranger is you assume every person from other categories is marginalized by default if they claim it. It’s time to stop generalizing and stomp out hate in the individual cases it can be found.
Re:Twitter set to accept Musk's $43B offer – sources by weakfish on Monday April 25, 2022 @02:08PM (#31158555)
I didn’t say I assume it by default. I just said statistically it’s more likely
Re:Twitter set to accept Musk's $43B offer – sources by sgt on Monday April 25, 2022 @01:28PM (#31158055)
This is true, but it is definitely being misused and claiming you are fighting odds and systemic racism is often borderline victim mentality.
Re:Twitter set to accept Musk's $43B offer – sources by ChicagoDave on Monday April 25, 2022 @02:05PM (#31158517)
So you've been followed around a department store by security because of the way you look?
Re:Twitter set to accept Musk's $43B offer – sources by twofornone on Monday April 25, 2022 @11:37AM (#31156373)
>sure, people may give you crap, but there’s nothing structural working against you

Except rapidly creeping D&I policies which explicitly discriminate against white men?

>Ah yes, white moderate men, the historically oppressed population, beaten down by years of hardship

This line of reasoning is a toxic non-sequitur. The fact that white men weren't "oppressed" historically does not mean that they are incapable of being oppressed now or should not be allowed to make such claims. Especially when you consider that even if "straight white men" are in power, the policies of that managing minority can absolutely skew our institutions against the rest who aren't in management. Which, by the way, is the entire point of D&I, so it's incredibly dishonest to pretend that oppression isn't happening when the oppressors are overtly trying to "level the playing field" by reducing/denying opportunity to this demographic.

You don't get to pretend that these policies aren't oppressive/discriminatory just because you agree with them, but that's what proponents are absolutely doing. And without pushback there's nothing stopping an overcorrection, which metrics indicate is already happening, since no one is bothered by a team that is 100% "diverse" (i.e. zero white males).

Re:Twitter set to accept Musk's $43B offer – sources by commandlinefan on Monday April 25, 2022 @12:48PM (#31157462)
> The fact that white men weren't "oppressed" historically

In addition to which, plenty were. Look into the treatment of the Irish in the 1800's. Or the coal miners in Virginia.