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Re:Marriage and luxury beliefs at the United Nations by tsupiroti on Monday April 25, 2022 @07:53AM (#31153241)
Good point, it's indeed common for couples to get married when having children.

Still, I think what's helping ensure commitment in that case are the children, rather than the marriage. It's much easier for a married childless couple to split up than for an unmarried couple that has children.

Re:Marriage and luxury beliefs at the United Nations by mduerksen on Monday April 25, 2022 @08:22AM (#31153443)
It is quite debatable if children actually stabilize marriages (I know a lot of counterexamples).

I would argue exactly the other way around: A lasting marriage is not itself the goal (though certainly nice to grow old together), but serves the purpose of raising offspring - that's what counts for every species that has survived.

Re:Marriage and luxury beliefs at the United Nations by tsupiroti on Monday April 25, 2022 @10:12AM (#31155060)
I agree children can cause problems in relationships. My point was more that they're a very strong reason against splitting up.
Re:Marriage and luxury beliefs at the United Nations by mensetmanusman on Tuesday April 26, 2022 @08:21AM (#31166583)
“ I think what's helping ensure commitment in that case are the children, rather than the marriage. ”

This is the luxury belief. It feels true, it doesn’t conflict with secular values, but all the research points to it being false…