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Re:Twitter re-examines Elon Musk’s bid, may be more receptiv... by hef19898 on Monday April 25, 2022 @03:58AM (#31151681)
Which new markets, after paypal? Cars? Rockets that go into space? Solar on roofs? Things carrying people through tunnels?

And in all the successful cases he had massive contributions by others. He provided the money, which is huge in itself. The actual work eas done by others, and the fact the Musk fails to properly say so, and that his fanboys believe every single of his claims, truely makes him the Steve Jobs of 2020s we deserve.

Re:Twitter re-examines Elon Musk’s bid, may be more receptiv... by tomp on Monday April 25, 2022 @04:40AM (#31151914)
> The actual work eas done by others,

Boeing probably has more and better engineers than SpaceX. Same with Toyota/Volkswagen compared to Tesla. Yet these companies simply cannot innovate. Talent (ability to do good work) is pointless without good leadership.

> the fact the Musk fails to properly say so

This is a lie.

https://mobile.twitter.com/elonmusk/status/15170727534756003...

> The failures are mine, the successes belong to others

Re:Twitter re-examines Elon Musk’s bid, may be more receptiv... by hef19898 on Monday April 25, 2022 @05:10AM (#31152102)
Toyota pioneered hybrid vehicles, Boeing got us the first composite fuselage for commercial airliners. I call that innovation. VW is pushing heavily towards EVs, and those actually are in the price range Tesla fails to achieve for its Model 3.

It is a different kind of innovation so, only considering "disruptuon" as innovation is quite short sighted so. Espiecially since Christensen himself differentiates between disruptive and sustaining (?) innovation.

Re:Twitter re-examines Elon Musk’s bid, may be more receptiv... by EricE on Monday April 25, 2022 @12:31PM (#31157191)
Is Boeing in space with SpaceX? Would VW even care about EVs without Tesla? Would they lie about them like they did their diesel emissions? lol - holding up VW as something to emulate!

GM had a pretty good EV in the 80’s - then killed it. Literally - never sold them, only leased them and forced owners to cough them back up and destroyed them.

I have zero interest in owning a Tesla - their stance on right to repair and their customer service sucks, but without them there wouldn’t be near the activity around EVs as there is now. Like him or not, Elon pretty much single handedly embarrassed the rest of the auto industry to have to take EVs seriously by proving that yes, EVs can be not only useful but cool.

Re:Twitter re-examines Elon Musk’s bid, may be more receptiv... by hef19898 on Monday April 25, 2022 @03:08PM (#31159292)
SpaceX isn't the only company shooting stuff into orbit. And VW isn't the only manufacturer pushing into EVss. I used those two because the were braught by OP.

And VW and others would care about EVs because of the general awareness about climate change.

Re:Twitter re-examines Elon Musk’s bid, may be more receptiv... by raspberry1337 on Monday April 25, 2022 @04:33AM (#31151864)
>Which new markets, after paypal? Cars? Rockets that go into space?

Yes and yes

>The actual work eas done by others, and the fact the Musk fails to properly say so,

Give me one instance where Musk denies the work of his friends and colleagues at SpaceX and Tesla please, because this post reek of bad sentiment and an awful take.

Re:Twitter re-examines Elon Musk’s bid, may be more receptiv... by hef19898 on Monday April 25, 2022 @05:17AM (#31152156)
I never said he denies it, did I? I sadi, quote, "and the fact the Musk fails to properly say so". To elaborate, Musk takes all the line light in the public for himself, he gets all the hype. Shotwell gets a little bit of it, and that's it then.
Re:Twitter re-examines Elon Musk’s bid, may be more receptiv... by EricE on Monday April 25, 2022 @12:34PM (#31157227)
Have you actually ever watched an interview with him or just hot takes from Reddit?

Because if you had ever watched a full, unedited interview with him you’d be too embarrassed to post what you just did. He’s a pretty humble guy.

One of the best interviews with him was the one he did with the Babylon Bee - you should watch it; it’s up on Youtube.

Re:Twitter re-examines Elon Musk’s bid, may be more receptiv... by shafyy on Monday April 25, 2022 @04:27AM (#31151837)
> The actual work eas done by others, and the fact the Musk fails to properly say so

This is not true. He often mentions and emphasizes that the success is the work of his great teams. He also publicly acknowledged that he failed to do so in the past, but he is certainly doing it now.