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Re:No one expects young men to do anything and they are resp... by giantg2 on Sunday April 24, 2022 @01:34PM (#31146223)
Or maybe that the majority that possess those traits go into other higher paying jobs that also require those traits. Starting around here for electricians is closer to $25-35. If you are concentrating and studying the NEC, you could alternatively study to be a dev and make more.
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Re:No one expects young men to do anything and they are resp... by s1artibartfast on Sunday April 24, 2022 @02:01PM (#31146497)
Union elections in the bay area rake in about 140k/year after 5 years on the job. Highly competitive, but no college required.
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Re:No one expects young men to do anything and they are resp... by giantg2 on Sunday April 24, 2022 @02:14PM (#31146636)
That's in a HCOL and about half the starting salary of a FAANG dev, probably about the same as starting for a non-FAANG dev in that area, right?

If I could be reasonably expected to make that in my area (Philly region), then that sounds great and is substantially more than I make as a dev.

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Re:No one expects young men to do anything and they are resp... by s1artibartfast on Sunday April 24, 2022 @02:23PM (#31146717)
That sounds about right.

Im not saying it is the best job in the region, just demonstrate that blue collar jobs can still provide a comfortable living with such salaries.

I would expect it to scale by regional COL.

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Re:No one expects young men to do anything and they are resp... by hackerfromthefu on Sunday April 24, 2022 @07:55PM (#31149382)
And this is perhaps the issue, people compare expectations against 'best' much more than they did in the past, because of all the (soc)media pushing it at them.
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