Re:No one expects young men to do anything and they are resp...
by giantg2 on Sunday April 24, 2022 @11:05AM
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You can work hard and still lose hope. Just look at the suicide rates in the farming community. You'd be hard pressed to find a group that works harder than that. Hope is a huge factor. Hard work can only do so much if the system is failing and there's no hope.
Re:No one expects young men to do anything and they are resp...
by michaelscott on Sunday April 24, 2022 @11:16AM
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It depends on the circumstance. I'm also from a poor background in a third world country (so super poor by Western standards), and although I did work both very hard and very smart, if I had not moved to a first world country there's no way I would have achieved much. Sometimes your environment can make it that hopeless, and I've seen it in many of the younger people back in my home country now. They've essentially just "checked out" of society, which leads to higher crime and unemployment overall.
Re:No one expects young men to do anything and they are resp...
by raydev on Sunday April 24, 2022 @11:50AM
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That's great for you, but go tell that to someone who's lost all hope. If there's no hope then there's little incentive to work hard.
Re:No one expects young men to do anything and they are resp...
by layer8 on Sunday April 24, 2022 @01:33PM
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I bet you had hope that your fighting would be worth it. What the GP is saying that if you don’t have hope then you have no incentive to work hard, because the lack of hope literally means that you don’t believe there’s a realistic chance it will lead to success. You need that belief to get going and to keep going.
Re:No one expects young men to do anything and they are resp...
by DeathArrow on Monday April 25, 2022 @05:20AM
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If by hope you mean realizing that chances of success do exist, then you are right.
Success doesn't come from hope. It comes from hard work and fighting every day for something better.
Luck might help, but is neither required nor enough for success.
I was from a poor background and fighting for a better future was the only thing that brought me some kind of success.