Re:No one expects young men to do anything and they are resp...
by hackerfromthefu on Sunday April 24, 2022 @08:23PM
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Why should one be expected to 'get ahead' if they didn't have skills and prepare for having an income to allow this, but had 4 kids? The rational answer there is to to have less kids, and spend more time working on a career!
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Re:No one expects young men to do anything and they are resp...
by Longlius on Sunday April 24, 2022 @11:00AM
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Depends on the immigrant family. The ones from Mexico and Central American certainly don't have much, but those coming from East and South Asia who immediately start businesses on arrival have access to more wealth (either personally or via social connections) than many native-born Americans will have access to in their entire lives.
Re:No one expects young men to do anything and they are resp...
by SamoyedFurFluff on Sunday April 24, 2022 @11:25AM
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> Simple, don't have 4 children.
Okay, but some people do, so what then? Fuck them and their 4 kids who did nothing wrong but be born?
Re:No one expects young men to do anything and they are resp...
by temp3444 on Sunday April 24, 2022 @11:40AM
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We need to seriously stop treating having kids as some kind of accident that just happens. It's extremely simple to not have children. American society is free, which means you are free to fail and fuck things up. If someone has 4 children the only person to blame is the parents. If you can't control yourself, get yourself sterilized. We don't need more of your insane lineage that can't prevent themselves from having 4 children on this planet.
Re:No one expects young men to do anything and they are resp...
by SamoyedFurFluff on Sunday April 24, 2022 @11:52AM
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Okay, but again, so we have 4 kids and people with 4 kids. We can wave all the blame we want but all that ends up logically concluding is “fuck children in bad economic situations who did nothing to deserve their situation”. We cannot unbirth children, so now they’re here, how can we incentivize society so that when they grow up they don’t end up putting future children in their current position?
How does one get ahead with 4 children and maybe $2000 of household income per month when rents eat half of that.
This isn't simply a problem of moral failing on the individual level but of failings at the societal level to provide a means for these people to escape poverty.