While there has been a rise in violent crime in the last few years, which is bad, Seattle is still less violent than it was historically. Right now, we're at approximately 2006 levels of violent crime:

https://www.macrotrends.net/cities/us/wa/seattle/crime-rate-...

so while its not good, its vastly oess apocalyptic than folks seem to portray.

I lived in Seattle in 2006, and it seemed a very safe city to me then!

It's pretty stable, though, and the rise isn't actually that large (just about at 2008 levels, and far below 2004 levels):

2008-modernity: https://s.hdnux.com/photos/01/23/72/75/21999466/3/rawImage.j...

Graph that includes pre-2008 levels: https://miro.medium.com/max/700/1*llD-nfzEV_nV-hISBQIRCQ.jpe...

> It's pretty stable, though, and the rise isn't actually that large (just about at 2008 levels, and far below 2004 levels):

I walked through Cap Hill and DT Seattle to catch a bus at 2am back in 2003. No worries at all.

A lot of crime isn't reported now days, e.g. my mothers truck just got stolen and she is not going to report it because the police are likely not going to even bother talking to her about it. I've had plenty of friends with stolen cars where the police told them "well you should be more careful with your car" and up and leave.

That sort of attitude sure makes the crime stats look good though.

How is your mother going to make an insurance claim for a stolen car without a police report? Or is she just going to eat the loss?

> How is your mother going to make an insurance claim for a stolen car without a police report? Or is she just going to eat the loss?

It is a 1992 ford ranger, in theory worth a fair bit in the current used truck market, but insurance will value it at next to nothing, so I presume she'll eat the loss.

I don't have comprehensive insurance on my old car, so insurance wouldn't pay for it being stolen.

The reason is pretty simple. The comprehensive insurance premium adds up to more than the car is worth.

Also, the way insurance works, is your rates go up to reimburse the company for payouts to you. Insurance is only worthwhile for losses you cannot cover yourself.

This is why downtown businesses have largely stopped reporting shoplifting to their insurance companies. It just makes the losses more expensive.

Same reason I don't report small accidents to my insurance, I just take my car to the body shop myself.

Recent property crime rates are famously undercounted, as people have largely stopped reporting them because the police do not react.

That's why my remark was on violent crime levels.

The first figure on both graphs is on violent crime. It's the orange one that's on property crime.

I know. I'm just pointing out that the violent crime rate graph is far more credible.