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Re:If founders treated investors the way they treat employees by sl9dmk2 on Wednesday April 20, 2022 @05:37PM (#31103369)
Gotta love the satire. Another thing investors have is access to the full cap table and what people are paid across their entire portfolio.

Employees have hearsay and scraps of info that friends are willing to share. Limited information = easy exploit

Found this database of startup comp that sorta evens the playing field: https://topstartups.io/startup-salary-equity-database/

Anything else out there?

Re:If founders treated investors the way they treat employees by 21723 on Wednesday April 20, 2022 @06:01PM (#31103627)
The long con of startups is that founders want you to think you're an investor--in truth, you are, because you're investing time, which ought to be more valuable than the money of people who have scads of it--and work like you're an investor... but they're still going to treat you like an employee. It's the same dysfunctional bureaucracy of the corporate ladder, except in this iteration it's across companies, so you don't even see the true executives (VCs). There are more rungs, more pitfalls, and greater socioeconomic distances than there ever were before.

The innovation of Silicon Valley isn't anything to do with technology, and hasn't been since the 1990s. Rather, it's the disposable company. If the investors get sick of something existing, they can choose not to fund it in the next round, call their friends and tell everyone else not to fund it, and it dies, allowing them to build something new in its place. The advantages (to investors) of the disposable company are legion, but one if them is that it doesn't matter all that much if you pick a scumbag. Which is also why YC backs so many DVFs (domestic violence founders). If they're jerks who get stuff done, you can let them collect a few million before firing them and putting your buddies in executive positions; if they're jerks who don't get stuff done, then you scrap the company and fund some other DVF.

Re:If founders treated investors the way they treat employees by sl9dmk2 on Wednesday April 20, 2022 @06:05PM (#31103674)
> Which is also why YC backs so many DVFs (domestic violence founders)

Are you Ryan Breslow?

Re:If founders treated investors the way they treat employees by throwawayf7962c on Wednesday April 20, 2022 @07:10PM (#31104240)
I'm pretty sure he's a different and, er, briefly infamous HN personality.
Re:If founders treated investors the way they treat employees by 21723 on Wednesday April 20, 2022 @06:13PM (#31103758)
I don't know who he is. Should I?
Re:If founders treated investors the way they treat employees by sl9dmk2 on Wednesday April 20, 2022 @06:30PM (#31103920)
https://twitter.com/theryanking/status/1485784823641755648?s...

Curious to hear more about DVFs. Not surprised they exist, but doubt they are the majority?

Re:If founders treated investors the way they treat employees by VinLucero on Wednesday April 20, 2022 @06:47PM (#31104056)
Levels.fyi has good compensation data.
Re:If founders treated investors the way they treat employees by xcambar on Wednesday April 20, 2022 @07:03PM (#31104186)
I'm in Europe and no. /shrug
Re:If founders treated investors the way they treat employees by mrsuprawsm on Wednesday April 20, 2022 @07:26PM (#31104376)
techpays.eu is your friend!
Re:If founders treated investors the way they treat employees by jason0597 on Wednesday April 20, 2022 @08:11PM (#31104671)
Thank you for that website! It's nice to see a resource for the European audience, almost everything in HN is US-only and it makes me click out of so so many discussions
Re:If founders treated investors the way they treat employees by cj on Wednesday April 20, 2022 @09:13PM (#31105038)
Are there any other more internationally minded tech communities that you recommend checking out?
Re:If founders treated investors the way they treat employees by barrkel on Wednesday April 20, 2022 @07:31PM (#31104422)
Amazon are paying pretty well all over. Google pays well in Zurich. Get a few offers and play them off against each other.