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Re:That time Sony installed rootkit software on thousands of... by dylan604 on Wednesday April 20, 2022 @09:48AM (#31096908)
>I still disagree. Those other systems are not the web. If i can look at a url and get your secret data, that’s on you. I think the other reply who gave the analogy of leaving the blinds open was a better one than mine

With you so far...

>[ and just off-topic slightly, yes, I think RCE and SQL injection are perfectly fine. ]

WTF?! Seriously? There's a huge difference by tweaking the content in a query string of a URL vs injecting known malicious code/content.

Re:That time Sony installed rootkit software on thousands of... by makerofthings on Wednesday April 20, 2022 @10:02AM (#31097094)
Yes, seriously, and I have thought about this a lot. I appreciate it’s not a popular position and I’m not likely to win any debates on the topic. If a computer is voluntarily connected to the internet then it’s there to explore and there should be no penalties for getting into those machines and looking around by connecting remotely. Malicious outcomes in the real world, obviously this is different. Hack in, look around, fine. Hack in, explode powerstation, not fine.
Re:That time Sony installed rootkit software on thousands of... by SpikedCola on Wednesday April 20, 2022 @10:17AM (#31097302)
I am inclined to agree - intent matters.

RCE/SQLi, then contacting the relevant company to notify them about the problem, shouldn't be a crime. RCE/SQLi, then dumping all the data and exorting the company with it, should definitely be.

Re:That time Sony installed rootkit software on thousands of... by bentcorner on Wednesday April 20, 2022 @12:33PM (#31099465)
> Malicious outcomes in the real world, obviously this is different.

I definitely agree with you on this point. If someone looked in my window from the street and saw me eating breakfast, no harm no foul. If I didn't want them to see me I should have closed the blinds. But if someone sets up a camera at the exact same spot and streams it to twitch, I feel like I should have some recourse. (I don't think, legally, I would, but ianal).