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Re:Debian and firmware by NovemberWhiskey on Monday April 18, 2022 @11:53PM (#31079614)
>the only way we'll see long term change is to keep the friction on

... but there are two possible long term changes, right?

In one of them, the friction incrementally pushes manufacturers not to have proprietary firmware and the number of machines supported by the Debian official install improves.

In the other one, the friction incrementally discourages users from installing Debian, and they either give up on Linux or adopt a distribution that isn't quite so user-hostile.

Re:Debian and firmware by b5n on Tuesday April 19, 2022 @12:07AM (#31079676)
Depends on how you define 'user-hostile'. There's already a link to the non-free image on the current installation page, and I wouldn't consider respecting your freedoms as hostile.
Re:Debian and firmware by NovemberWhiskey on Tuesday April 19, 2022 @01:16AM (#31079943)
So if Debian were some megacorp, someone would already be complaining about the "dark pattern" that puts the link to the directory (n.b. not the actual images) for non-free images down the bottom of that page in small print inside a box labeled like a warning, and calls them "unofficial".

As opposed to making it clear that this is the one you need if you're doing something outrageous like ... using a laptop or something.