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Re:The case for LineageOS and the PinePhone by nabaraz on Monday April 18, 2022 @04:58PM (#31076453)
The choice is between GrapheneOS + Sandboxed Google play vs LineageOS + MicroG.

If you care too much about privacy, GrapheneOS is the way to go. If you want a balance between privacy and usability, LineageOS is the way to go. Also, GrapheneOS only supports Pixel phones.

I have tried CalyxOS but there are too many issues.

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Re:The case for LineageOS and the PinePhone by dtx1 on Monday April 18, 2022 @05:38PM (#31076934)
> If you care too much about privacy, GrapheneOS is the way to go

Not so sure about that. If you care about SECURITY than GrapheneOS is pretty much the best choice on the market, comparable only to iOS or bare Android on Pixel Phones. Everyone else isn't even reasonable to compare against it.

But wether it's more private with sandboxed Google Play Services vs Lineage OS and MicroG or iOS is not such an obvious choice to me.

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Re:The case for LineageOS and the PinePhone by emteycz on Monday April 18, 2022 @06:27PM (#31077439)
If you want privacy, don't install anything Google or microG. Surprisingly many apps from Play store (via Aurora or sideloaded) still work (not all features though) - but if you want privacy, don't even use Play store via Aurora.
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Re:The case for LineageOS and the PinePhone by hef19898 on Tuesday April 19, 2022 @04:26AM (#31080795)
Not using Aurora and micro made banking impossible in my case... Well, I almost completely de-googled so I don't complain too much. Maybe keeping my old phone for banking only and using a pinephone for everything else would work, I have to investigate that!
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Re:The case for LineageOS and the PinePhone by emteycz on Tuesday April 19, 2022 @11:54AM (#31084845)
I just use the web version of internet banking. One of my banks doesn't have responsive website, but for sending money and setting card limits it's still more than enough.
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Re:The case for LineageOS and the PinePhone by dtx1 on Wednesday April 20, 2022 @03:20AM (#31093774)
Lots of banks require their particular 2FA Apps
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Re:The case for LineageOS and the PinePhone by emteycz on Wednesday April 20, 2022 @03:28AM (#31093832)
Yeah, I went to the local branch, pulled out my old Nokia 3310 and asked them to install the app. They promptly switched me back to SMS auth.
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Re:The case for LineageOS and the PinePhone by mikece on Monday April 18, 2022 @05:13PM (#31076640)
By "sandboxed Google Play" do you mean using the Aurora app?

Coming from iPhone, something I keep forgetting is the full support for PWA apps on Graphene OS. I wish there were PWA versions of apps like Signal, Wire, ProtonMail, and more; so much cleaner to update the app through a deliberate refresh than going through a middle-man service like F-Droid.

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Re:The case for LineageOS and the PinePhone by tortasaur on Monday April 18, 2022 @05:32PM (#31076864)
They support actual Google Play Services in a sandbox: https://grapheneos.org/faq#google-services
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Re:The case for LineageOS and the PinePhone by tie_ on Tuesday April 19, 2022 @04:36AM (#31080839)
Word! PWAs are awesome (for a lot of usecases), and I don't quite get how they are not becoming a center pillar of mobile development.
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Re:The case for LineageOS and the PinePhone by 0rdinant on Monday April 18, 2022 @06:47PM (#31077632)
Sanboxed Play Services nets more app compatibility than LineageOS+MicroG, I don't understand your usability argument.
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Re:The case for LineageOS and the PinePhone by keb_ on Tuesday April 19, 2022 @12:14AM (#31079700)
What issues have you experienced with CalyxOS? Asking as a daily user of CalyxOS. I have not had any real issues, but I also don't install many apps on my phone.
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Re:The case for LineageOS and the PinePhone by throwing4321 on Tuesday April 19, 2022 @05:47AM (#31081224)
For one, they recently were unable to give monthly security updates for 3 months or so.
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Re:The case for LineageOS and the PinePhone by 0xdeadb00f on Wednesday April 20, 2022 @05:01PM (#31102948)
The "usability" thing is quite frankly, bullshit.

Sandboxed play services is quite literally play services you're allowed to deny permissions to, it offers way more compatibility than microg which replaces play services with it's own thing

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