You know it’s bad when a loss this large isn’t surprising or interesting in the slightest.

A loss to some, but a huge win for the ones who took the money. The crypto evangelists should start promoting this aspect of the space: "It isn't really stealing if the code was bad!"

Should be the opposite, this is not even 1/10th of 1 percent of what's stored in defi. This shouldn't even be huge news. I don't even see any links to bug bounties on their site.

A $182M bug bounty was just claimed.

A loss of 0.1% of all the money NOT stored in crypto would be huge news.

This reminds me of the "If my grandma had wheels, she would be a bike." meme.

Yes but that is irrelevant.

It is unfortunate this happened of course, proper security audits of your smart contracts is very important in cases like these.

I should know better than to comment in crypto threads, the "discussions" are rarely interesting. Here's the meme, you'll understand why it's so fitting. There's probably a more proper name for this type of fallacy but I don't know it. https://youtu.be/A-RfHC91Ewc

It’s not fitting. The comment you replied to is a pretty clear rebuttal.

0.1% of all non crypto money stolen is not comparable to 0.1% stolen of defi locked up money. They're just too different.

I think both are "huge" news, but the "rebuttal" does not add any weight to the argument because they're not comparable.

> they're not comparable.

Yes, they are. Things don’t have to be the same to be comparable. People compare them all the time and very reasonably so. “Should I put my money into traditional finance or defi? What are the pros/cons?”

An axis that should be compared when choosing a finance system is “how likely is my money to disappear?”. A single event where an amount of money that’s this fraction of the overall system and this much value is a newsworthy, meaningful, relevant, comparable event.

> “Should I put my money into traditional finance or defi? What are the pros/cons?”

I have no issues with this question, because you want to compare the two and find out what properties suit your goals.

> An axis that should be compared when choosing a finance system is “how likely is my money to disappear?”.

This is not what was being discussed, but it is certainly an important question to ask if that is the choice one is making.

> A single event where an amount of money that’s this fraction of the overall system and this much value is a newsworthy, meaningful, relevant, comparable event.

We already agree that the two events are newsworthy. The thing we disagree on is the following: If 0.1% of traditional money is stolen is newsworthy, then this adds further evidence that 0.1% of DeFi money being stolen is newsworthy. I don't agree with that.

It's news that a life-changing volume of cash can get hacked away from your wallet and just vanish.

It's not better that there's actually a planet-changing volume elsewhere in similar jeopardy. We should be howling about the anti-features baked into these things that enable criminal enterprise.

Ha, imagine 0.1% of all USD got stolen in one swoop.

Interesting thought…

Based on current US inflation rates, that’s about 4 days worth of inflation. So, you could probably blame the Fed for “stealing” that much in one swoop.

I don't know why people keep blaming the fed for everything. It is one of the least powerful and most irrelevant institutions on the planet.

> It is one of the least powerful and most irrelevant institutions on the planet.

And how do you come to that conclusion?

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