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Re:“YouTube-dl” and “Pirate Bay” back on DDG by ldiracdelta on Sunday April 17, 2022 @12:44PM (#31062163)
They've "memory-holed", 1984-style, other conservative sites as well. Just another narrative-enforcing search-engine.
Re:“YouTube-dl” and “Pirate Bay” back on DDG by eloisius on Monday April 18, 2022 @02:21AM (#31067964)
Regardless of whether you support or oppose this kind of content, there are perfectly good reasons search for it and share it. This whole "don't talk about it, don't look at it" strategy that tech companies are taking is downright scary. I support identifying and transparently outing state actors. I'm not comfortable with it, but even censoring or caveating content based on author or institution is better than censoring based on the content itself.

For example, someone close to me expressed support for the "Proud Boys." This person in particular has been duped by evangelical movements in the past that all have one curious detail in common: they prohibit masturbation. Half to make fun of him, half to help him, I wanted to share a link with him to the Proud Boy's official website because he wouldn't believe me when I said they ban jackin' it. Facebook Messenger (in private DMs) refused to send a message including the link. "Send failed. Operation could not be completed." I tried an archive.org archive of it, same thing.

Re:“YouTube-dl” and “Pirate Bay” back on DDG by uuyi on Sunday April 17, 2022 @12:47PM (#31062185)
I prefer to say “shite removal” after the last half a decade.

At least TPB adds value to peoples lives.

Re:“YouTube-dl” and “Pirate Bay” back on DDG by somenameforme on Sunday April 17, 2022 @01:10PM (#31062387)
It depends on what you want out of a search engine. Do you want a search that tries to give you what it thinks you want? Or do you want a search that functions more like a library index where you're going to get what you searched for, even if that might ironically not really be exactly what you wanted - so the onus of creating a more correct search term is on you.

This isn't a rhetorical question of course. There are major arguments for both. But I think a pretty good chunk of DDG users were more often after the library index than what ideally would be a librarian recommendation, but in reality is more like a stereotypical used car salesman style recommendation.

Re:“YouTube-dl” and “Pirate Bay” back on DDG by fallingknife on Sunday April 17, 2022 @02:24PM (#31062984)
I would be fine with either. But what I really don't want is a search engine that gives me what it thinks I should want.
Re:“YouTube-dl” and “Pirate Bay” back on DDG by colordrops on Sunday April 17, 2022 @01:58PM (#31062774)
The whole point is to have a place where you can see shite if you want. I don't need an online nanny.
Re:“YouTube-dl” and “Pirate Bay” back on DDG by HeckFeck on Sunday April 17, 2022 @06:16PM (#31065018)
I might agree with shite. Or I might wish to read it for my own amusement. Or perhaps I want to argue against the shite, in which case, I need to know what shite is out there. In any case, it doesn't matter. I only need the search engine to be an intermediary, not a curator.

Besides, if someone accidentally searches for shite, he can revise his search terms. Just like how you might reword something if a listener was confused.

This "curation" just doesn't need to exist. But that's a moral argument and those applying censorship aren't moral, so won't be partial to it.

Re:“YouTube-dl” and “Pirate Bay” back on DDG by ldiracdelta on Sunday April 17, 2022 @01:01PM (#31062317)
Yes, the Overton Window must be enforced. We have always been at war with East Asia.
Re:“YouTube-dl” and “Pirate Bay” back on DDG by ta8903 on Sunday April 17, 2022 @01:15PM (#31062431)
Removal of TPB was a positive too. Can't imagine how much loss of revenue these pirate sites have caused over the years.